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    How many abortions are after 6 weeks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    The dumb statement started with you calling women "whores."
    not all women ignorant dumbass, as a matter of fact women as a group was not mentioned at all, learn to read
    Doc Dutch finally admits he is a steaming pile of chickenshit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TOP View Post
    How many abortions are after 6 weeks?
    Nine out of 10 abortions done before 12 weeks in many high ...
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    Generally, most abortions were carried out by 10 or 11 weeks, and in most countries nearly all abortions (90%) were obtained before 13 weeks, with the highest .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Roe was definitely constitutional law.
    UGH...the decision was based on Constitutional Law...there was no "Roe" Law.


    They interpreted the Constitution to include abortion under the right to privacy changing the meaning of the Constitution to expand the right to privacy.
    What the fuck are you talking about?

    The Constitution was not amended or changed at all to include abortion in the right to privacy.

    So you're not talking about a law, you're talking about a precedent that is based in Constitutional Law.

    An abortion law would need to come from Congress, not SCOTUS.

    Jesus fucking Christ.

    SO STUPID.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Dutch View Post
    Agreed. Shooting angry Trumpers should be a national pastime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    That is the way the system has always worked.
    NO, it isn't.

    The system has never, until the Roberts Court, worked in this context where the personal beliefs of the justices form as the basis of their decisions.


    Does that mean Brown, Loving, Lawrence, and Obergefell should not have overturned previous law just because of 5 or 6 justices personal beliefs?
    You would need to prove that the justices decided those along their personal beliefs and not along the letter of the law, which you're not going to be able to do because none of those justices lied during their confirmation hearings.

    (Some Critical Race Theory for you: confirmation hearings for SCOTUS justices weren't a thing until the first Jewish justice was nominated)

    Why don't you get off your lazy ass and read those decisions so you can see clearly the contrast between a thoughtful, legal interpretation of the law and a thoughtless, personal interpretation?


    All the justices perjure themselves during confirmation hearings.
    No they don't.



    They have no real choice if they want to be confirmed because of the excessively partisan questioning by Democrats and Republicans trying to get them to commit themselves to issues on cases they have not heard.
    You mean to tell me that in all their law experience, none of the SCOTUS justices had ever taken the bar or went to law school?

    What do they all mean by "precedent", then? When they talk about precedent during their confirmation hearings, what are they talking about if not for this?

    Again, you're really fucking stupid.

    Just really, really dumb.


    In many cases justices just rule on the MS case without making the broader ruling on Roe.
    But they did make a broad ruling on Roe, despite saying it was settled.

    Can you point to any confirmation hearing in the last 100 or so years where the justice said that something was precedent and then completely flip-flopped? Because I can't recall that ever happening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpressLane View Post
    Why do you want to murder kitties?
    Who said I wanted to murder little kitties?

    I love cats more than people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    good point . but you have to put Roe in there too
    All this does is make the process/procedure unequal in different state and diminish personal autonomy

    SCOTUS should have just ruled on the details of the MS law instead of going full retard
    Next time I try to assert my (inherent) privacy rights, overturning Roe will weaken my argument
    Yep...exactly.

    You now have no legal right to privacy, which means I can doxx you if I wanted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    Yep...exactly.

    You now have no legal right to privacy, which means I can doxx you if I wanted.
    like (after) Roe the law varies by state
    But i take that as a serious threat from a psychopath as yoursself
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    I just ran across this. they should make a political ad with it. Democrat/liberals/leftist/progressives/Democommies have always been TWO FACED HYPOCRITES. They only get away with it because they have the left-wing medias in their back pockets. How anyone can vote for such a slimy party is astounding to me.

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    Flip-Floppin’ Joe Biden Once Voted to Overturn Roe v. Wade

    President Joe Biden opposed the Supreme Court’s decision to legalize abortion one year after Roe v Wade.

    “I don’t think that a woman has the sole right to say what should happen to her body,” he told the Washingtonian in 1974, one year after the court legalized abortion.

    “I don’t like the Supreme Court decision on abortion. I think it went too far,” he added.

    All of it with comments:
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...rn-roe-v-wade/

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    But i take that as a serious threat from a psychopath as yoursself
    You should.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lionfish View Post
    Indeed!

    Nothing more effective in energizing the Democrat Socialist base than baby killing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    like (after) Roe the law varies by state
    But i take that as a serious threat from a psychopath as yoursself
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    If this is true, you are releasing PM information which is a violation of the TOS of JPP.

    So, you are either a liar or in violation of the TOS of JPP., cobarde. Checkmate.

    Where did the little twerp, AKA el cobarde, go?

    Second flinch...a double flincher.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Code1211 View Post
    The story needs to be accurate and and as complete as time allows.

    The story was presented, very deliberately, to be both incendiary and deceptive.

    IF Roe and Casey are overturned, THEN the legality or illegality of the performance of abortion (and when and where and how) will be returned to the States where, CONSTITUTIONALLY, it belongs.

    The raving and dishonest propaganda from dishonest and frantic morons on the Left is what it is.

    Do you live in a state in which you feel that your elected representatives will not vote to allow Abortion at any stage of pregnancy for any reason?
    How is that misleading? The issue will return to the states to decide just like before Roe. What was deceptive about the story that said exactly that?

    In my state the law would: make abortion a felony with exceptions "only to save the life of the pregnant patient or if they risk “substantial impairment of major bodily function.” Doctors could face life in prison and fines up to $100,000 if they perform abortions in violation of the law"

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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    UGH...the decision was based on Constitutional Law...there was no "Roe" Law.
    We all know that. Supreme Court decisions interpreting the Constitution become constitutional law (not statutory law).
    You are arguing something we know already and nobody suggested anything to the contrary.

    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post


    What the fuck are you talking about?

    The Constitution was not amended or changed at all to include abortion in the right to privacy.

    So you're not talking about a law, you're talking about a precedent that is based in Constitutional Law.

    An abortion law would need to come from Congress, not SCOTUS.

    Jesus fucking Christ.

    SO STUPID.
    We have long established your lack of knowledge about constitutional issues.

    If you do not think the Constitution was changed (through court interpretation) you have not read Roe. It used the right to privacy created by Griswold to make abortion protected by that same right to privacy. Roe became constitutional law when it issued that decision. It did not become "a law" but became part of the Constitution through court interpretation which is the "law of the land"--you know, the "settled law" they all talked about.

    "Settled law" can be changed. At one time Plessy (1896) was settled law until it was overturned in 1954. Nobody passed a law to overturn Plessy; instread, the court changed it through constitutional interpretation which is known as constitutional law.

    The precedent they used to make that decision was Griswold, Society of Sisters, etc. Precedent can be used to make new constitutional law.

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