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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Mason View Post
    That's the standard answer from those on the down low
    The only "down low" I go is on a woman. But if you go "down low" homosexually, that's you
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    Over the years, I've read and listened to reports by and on parents who "perceived" that their 4-5 yr. old was gay, and proceeded to raise that kid in a fashion that "would not hinder or dissuade the child's development in that direction. No joke. Living in the NY suburbs and working/living in NYC all my life, I've access to all types of information via local/national media.

    This type of attitude can and has led to kids being more prone to bisexual experiences/attitudes/experimenting than say a child raised by parents who treat child as their physical/biological gender shows.
    I understand your point.

    I do not think I would call that nurturing a child towards gayness.

    It is more to just a liberal life style.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LurchAddams View Post
    LOL.. what are you doing?
    Asking questions you might not want to answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnostic Christian View Post
    Are homosexual natures created by nurture, nature, or God?

    I think the answer is is quite important as it would show us the cause/source of homosexuality.

    If God, as believers think, then why is God creating gays?

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    It is not an important question to me. Live and let live regardless of why people are who they are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbander View Post
    There is no answer, you have to create God to answer a question about if it is Gods fault, and there is no real answer on whether you are born gay or educated to be gay. Lots of opinion , mostly hate driven, hate based.
    Yes, thanks to the mainstream satanic religions. Christianity, Islam etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    It is not an important question to me. Live and let live regardless of why people are who they are.
    For evil to grow, all the good people need do is live and let the evil bastards live and keep preachinbg evil.

    Good people act.

    Immoral people live and let evil people live displaying their unmerited hate.

    Your is a position of a moral coward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnostic Christian View Post
    For evil to grow, all the good people need do is live and let the evil bastards live and keep preachinbg evil.

    Good people act.

    Immoral people live and let evil people live displaying their unmerited hate.

    Your is a position of a moral coward.

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    Where does evil come into play here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Where does evil come into play here?
    Do you not see immorality and evil in discriminating against gays without a just cause?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnostic Christian View Post
    Do you not see immorality and evil in discriminating against gays without a just cause?

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    Yes, I do. Regardless of why they are gay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Yes, I do. Regardless of why they are gay.
    Then you see the evil in those that discriminate against them without a just cause.

    Good.

    Point it out to them.

    I see it as a good man's duty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnostic Christian View Post
    Then you see the evil in those that discriminate against them without a just cause.

    Good.

    Point it out to them.

    I see it as a good man's duty.

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    I agree about the duty.

    But focusing on why makes it seem to matter, who cares why, it is reality that some people are gay and it’s nothing to discriminate against anyone about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Cycle of child sexual abuse:

    Researchers M.R. Hilton and G.C. Mezey discovered that there is a progression from victim to victimizer, as child sexual abusers often report a cycle of sexual victimization.

    This is particularly common in pedophiles whose preferred targets are little boys.

    Hilton & Mezey make some further points:

    1. The more deviant the patient population, the higher the rates of past victimization

    2. The choice of victims is dependent on the victims' physical characteristics, including age

    3. There is often a tendency to abuse the victim in a way that replicates the offender's own experience of abuse

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8894189/
    This article only explores child abuse, not homosexuality.

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    Homosexuals are in all likelihood created by birth defects, but it's obviously not their fault and they shouldn't be denied equal status under the law because of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnostic Christian View Post

    Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    Over the years, I've read and listened to reports by and on parents who "perceived" that their 4-5 yr. old was gay, and proceeded to raise that kid in a fashion that "would not hinder or dissuade the child's development in that direction. No joke. Living in the NY suburbs and working/living in NYC all my life, I've access to all types of information via local/national media.

    This type of attitude can and has led to kids being more prone to bisexual experiences/attitudes/experimenting than say a child raised by parents who treat child as their physical/biological gender shows.


    I understand your point.

    I do not think I would call that nurturing a child towards gayness.

    It is more to just a liberal life style.

    Regards
    DL
    If you understood my point, then you wouldn't have made that erroneous statement.

    My parents are "straight" liberals (albeit registered Democrats). I have straight "liberal" friends & relatives who are married parents. NONE of these folk do the "nurturing" that I previously described. Yet, there have been gay children born among them...the rare exceptions to the majority of straight kids born. I would assert that this is the same for "straight" conservative married parents on the whole.
    What I previously pointed to is what is being done by SOME parents. l
    It is what it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnostic Christian View Post
    Asking questions you might not want to answer.

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