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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    not retroactive, as the court just affirmed......sorry to fuck up your fantasy.......
    It is a 60 year old law. Hardly retroactively. Everyone made plans based on Florida's 60 year old promise, and I doubt the courts are going to see your retroactive argument as applying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    I'm not seeing it the way you do. Example: Long ago when my kids were young, there was a family-owned pet store that had set up in a former single-family home in an older part of the town bordering Hwy. 70. The area had been rezoned as mixed so there were several other businesses that occupied former residential buildings. The problem with the pet store was that they started keeping dangerous animals. Outside they had chain link pens with a baby black bear, a baby lion, and some hybrid wolf pups. Inside they had a variety of small and large snakes (non venomous that I was aware of), rats, mice, lizards, scorpions, spiders, and a four-foot caymen that walked around the store. Neighbors complained about the sad plight of the outside animals as well as the inside. The city could do nothing since they'd issued the license to begin with. So they changed pet store licenses and tacked on a hefty fee (I think it was $500 per year) for each animal on the premises deemed "dangerous." The store folded up and left town.

    Fair use of the city's power, or persecution? The store owner called it persecution, went to the news stations, tried to get customers to sign a petition, etc.

    FL revoking a special incentive granted to a corporation to entice them to settle there smacks more of persecution than a legitimate use of power.
    Ironically, Disney would not be laughing at DeathSentence right now if they had only discriminated against gay people.

    There are no lawyers worth hiring in the state, who agree with DeathSentence. They would need a special session to change existing Fla. law in order to achieve what this new law is pushing.
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    It is a 60 year old law. Hardly retroactively. Everyone made plans based on Florida's 60 year old promise, and I doubt the courts are going to see your retroactive argument as applying.
    its obvious.......no one has "made plans based on Florida's 60 year old promise" beyond 2029, which is the oldest of the existing bonds......Reedy Creek has no power to issue new bonds........it cannot and doesn't apply to any existing bonds......
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    its obvious.......no one has "made plans based on Florida's 60 year old promise" beyond 2029, which is the oldest of the existing bonds......Reedy Creek has no power to issue new bonds........it cannot and doesn't apply to any existing bonds......
    Florida is on the hook for all existing bonds, and on the hook for all government commitments of Reddy Creek.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    Florida is on the hook for all existing bonds, and on the hook for all government commitments of Reddy Creek.
    your ignorance reign's supreme.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    your ignorance reign's supreme.....
    Having Florida default on debt will not reflect well on their credit worthiness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    uh dude.....I gave you an answer.......if pretending I didn't is your plan, then this thread is as stupid as all your others.......you know, as does everyone else here, that many cities blocked CFA for political reasons......
    I know you believe that. And maybe it’s true, but I’ve seen no evidence.

    The important question is, if it is true, was it wrong?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    uh dude.....I gave you an answer.......if pretending I didn't is your plan, then this thread is as stupid as all your others.......you know, as does everyone else here, that many cities blocked CFA for political reasons......
    I know you believe that. And maybe it’s true, but I’ve seen no evidence.

    The important question is, if it is true, was it wrong?
    Some have tried and, yes, it's wrong per the Constitution IMO.

    Note the irony here: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b1884136.html

    US Senator Lindsey Graham posted a strongly-worded opposition to the campaign on Facebook, saying: "If such a disastrous move ever came about – banning a commercial business due to them expressing their First Amendment rights – it would set a horrible precedent."


    DeSantis is a lying cocksucker and a Pedo supporter. Fuck him. The odds favor him winning a second term as governor due to Republican redistricting in Florida, but I strongly doubt he'll ever be elected to the WH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Some have tried and, yes, it's wrong per the Constitution IMO.

    Note the irony here: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b1884136.html

    US Senator Lindsey Graham posted a strongly-worded opposition to the campaign on Facebook, saying: "If such a disastrous move ever came about – banning a commercial business due to them expressing their First Amendment rights – it would set a horrible precedent."


    DeSantis is a lying cocksucker and a Pedo supporter. Fuck him. The odds favor him winning a second term as governor due to Republican redistricting in Florida, but I strongly doubt he'll ever be elected to the WH.
    Apparently it’s only OK if a Republican does it. The right type of Republican, Trump republican.

    We all know from the last four years that Lindsey Graham says only what might help Lindsey Graham, and next week it may be the exact opposite of what he says today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Apparently it’s only OK if a Republican does it. The right type of Republican, Trump republican.

    We all know from the last four years that Lindsey Graham says only what might help Lindsey Graham, and next week it may be the exact opposite of what he says today.
    All Trump Republicans are lying, anti-Constitutional, authoritarian pedo supporters. They cheat Americans out of their voting rights and support turning the US into an authoritarian state.

    Sad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    your ignorance reign's supreme.....
    I am curious how Reedy Creek is supposed to pay off any issued bonds if Reedy Creek has no ability to tax. It seems to be your ignorance that is reigning supreme here.
    "We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    I am curious how Reedy Creek is supposed to pay off any issued bonds if Reedy Creek has no ability to tax. It seems to be your ignorance that is reigning supreme here.
    Pmp is a notorious liar which is why he's such a good minion of Satan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    Interesting. I wonder if those cities that hated on Chick-Fil-A have any so that the municipalities that used permit codes and taxation codes to keep Chick-Fil-A out of their cities might have some comeuppance.
    That's far too deep for Madwitch!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    I am curious how Reedy Creek is supposed to pay off any issued bonds if Reedy Creek has no ability to tax. It seems to be your ignorance that is reigning supreme here.
    In the past Disney would pay, going forward it looks like Orange County pays.
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