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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    When they shadow ban folks they make it so that while you aren't unable to tweet folks do not see your tweets regardless. So, folks that are shadow banned tweet, but reach less than 5% of what they would before they were shadow banned... this is something that TwitLer does to stop conservatives from reaching folks when they believe that their opinions or the information they are posting about are "misinformation". Like Hunter Biden's laptop or negative opinions on whether you should get a fourth vaccine dose.
    When you intentionally mis-spell it “TwitLer” is that so it rhymes with Hitler?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Do you have any evidence or support for that claim? Or, is it just something you imagine is happening?
    https://blog.circleboom.com/twitter-shadowban/

    Do you think that you have a notable drop in Twitter engagement? Do you wonder why friends and loved ones have stopped liking, commenting and retweeting your tweets? Well, there is a chance that you are facing a Twitter shadowban.

    This phrase has been becoming increasingly popular, although you may have heard it referred to as stealth banning or ghost banning. So, does Twitter shadowban?

    Actually, the answer is both yes and no. In 2018, in a blog post, Twitter had claimed that they don't "shadowban based on political viewpoints or ideology" but they "rank tweets and search results," and they also take into consideration of "bad-faith actors who intend to manipulate or detract from the healthy conversation."

    On the other hand, since January 2020, in their Terms of Service, they stated that "… may also remove or refuse to distribute any content on the services, limit distribution or visibility of any content on the service…."

    More at link...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Is there some evidence Twitter does this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    So Ice Cube claiming it is the basis?

    Does he know Musk doesn’t even own it yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    When you intentionally mis-spell it “TwitLer” is that so it rhymes with Hitler?
    Duh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    So Ice Cube claiming it is the basis?

    Does he know Musk doesn’t even own it yet?
    Insert Face Palm emoji

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    https://blog.circleboom.com/twitter-shadowban/

    Do you think that you have a notable drop in Twitter engagement? Do you wonder why friends and loved ones have stopped liking, commenting and retweeting your tweets? Well, there is a chance that you are facing a Twitter shadowban.

    This phrase has been becoming increasingly popular, although you may have heard it referred to as stealth banning or ghost banning. So, does Twitter shadowban?

    Actually, the answer is both yes and no. In 2018, in a blog post, Twitter had claimed that they don't "shadowban based on political viewpoints or ideology" but they "rank tweets and search results," and they also take into consideration of "bad-faith actors who intend to manipulate or detract from the healthy conversation."

    On the other hand, since January 2020, in their Terms of Service, they stated that "… may also remove or refuse to distribute any content on the services, limit distribution or visibility of any content on the service…."

    More at link...
    So… maybe!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    So… maybe!
    Read the article. Not "maybe".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    Duh.
    Thanks… I’ve heard so many complaints from Conservatives about Hitler comparisons, it made me wonder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    Read the article. Not "maybe".
    I read it… A clear maybe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    I read it… A clear maybe.
    You didn't read it if you are saying "maybe". The article makes it clear that they utilize the strategy. Now whether they do it against conservatives more often than to "liberals" may be a "maybe" but even that isn't really, it is based on simple experience and what they call "misinformation" (much of what they call misinformation are simply opinions that they do not agree with).

    When they do this to the site, it is invariably for post titles form folks on the right part of the spectrum. Whether it is a ban, or a shadow ban.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    You didn't read it if you are saying "maybe". The article makes it clear that they utilize the strategy. Now whether they do it against conservatives more often than to "liberals" may be a "maybe" but even that isn't really, it is based on simple experience and what they call "misinformation" (much of what they call misinformation are simply opinions that they do not agree with).

    When they do this to the site, it is invariably for post titles form folks on the right part of the spectrum. Whether it is a ban, or a shadow ban.
    I do not know how you might know when they use it or why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    LOL. Musk isn't even right-wing... Inane.

    Free speech actually does include hearing things you disagree with, it will be okay. Seriously, this nation lived on it for a bit over 2 centuries before the left was successful buying the public square and spiking any opinions they didn't like, it will thrive on free speech again.
    Let me see ,everything is dandy, the right is so ignorant that Diaper Don, who has a brain the size of a pee was able to get his followers to try to kill cops so they can force their way into the capita so they could shit and piss on the floors and attempt to bring down our democracy and country to force in a piece of shit for a dictator and you will vote for the piece of shit. Even though he is by far this country's biggest threat and enemy, no one else comes even close to Diaper Don. He will do the exact same thing , with the exact same lie and you people are so air headed that you will help him destroy us. Guess what, Once he is in you stooges will disappear just like the brown shirts in Nazi Germany. Bang one less turd.

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    Twitter is an enormous platform now in the hands of one man. That could be very bad depending on how he uses it. The potential is there. Our media is in the hands of corporations now. They are changing the message to their advantage.
    I suspect Musk is pretty busy. I do not think he can put the time in to run it.
    At this point, I cannot even guess what plans he has for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    When they shadow ban folks they make it so that while you aren't unable to tweet folks do not see your tweets regardless. So, folks that are shadow banned tweet, but reach less than 5% of what they would before they were shadow banned... this is something that TwitLer does to stop conservatives from reaching folks when they believe that their opinions or the information they are posting about are "misinformation". Like Hunter Biden's laptop or negative opinions on whether you should get a fourth vaccine dose.
    What a hoot, The fact of the matter is all the lies are in the right for a reason , because they believe lies are more effective then the truth. Trump Taught them that and Hitler taught Trump that and Joseph Goebbels taught Hitler That
    Goebbels On how the lie is used in government
    “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
    But Joseph Goebbels actually got it from Mien Kampf When Hitler used it to say how the Jews control everything. The only Book Trump ever read in his life was "MY new Order" and he read it nightly , it literally was on his bedstead for years for nighty reading. Of course we all know that the book was written by Hitler , it was a book of all his speeches that is used by researchers to find out how Trump. OOPS! Hitler controlled his country with lies.

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