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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    facts??? ROFL..
    trump is anti-NATO, and did talk a lot about withdrawal from Europe.

    The fact is that he refused to promise to defend Europe, so no one was counting on him to stay. The Europeans are terrified that trump will be back, and destroy NATO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    proxy war
    Was WWII (before Pearl Harbor) a proxy war for the USA? Or was the USA willing to help a country that was already willing to fight for its life?

    The USA is willing to help out Ukraine, if they want the help, but we are not creating the war, or the willingness of the Ukrainians to fight for their own survival.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    trump is anti-NATO, and did talk a lot about withdrawal from Europe.

    The fact is that he refused to promise to defend Europe, so no one was counting on him to stay. The Europeans are terrified that trump will be back, and destroy NATO.
    no Trump isn't anti-NATO he wants NATO to pay their way.
    The fact is that he refused to promise to defend Europe, so no one was counting on him to stay.
    absolute lies. He at one time said US defending Europe was conditional on paying up

    Which was just a negotiating ploy - since Article 5 is a treaty requirement and a president can't withdrawal -only Congress

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    no Trump isn't anti-NATO he wants NATO to pay their way.
    absolute lies. He at one time said US defending Europe was conditional on paying up

    Which was just a negotiating ploy - since Article 5 is a treaty requirement and a president can't withdrawal -only Congress
    Yes, Trump was talking about pulling out. How much more anti-NATO do you require. And there is no NATO fund. They were talking about promises to get their military budget up to 2 percent. The deal they had, said to by 2025. Trump had congress and senate under control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Given that Ukraine is history's largest graveyard of Russian tanks, Vlad would prefer a defenseless and helpless rape victim.
    War should never be a cakewalk, especially when you started it?!! It should be costly as hell in men and material, so that you don't start another one?!! That being said, some people never learn from history?!! One more thing, leaders who have never fought in a war, should not be starting one too!

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    Default Kremlin again begs Biden to stop arming Ukraine

    April 30 - Russia’s foreign minister has again urged the United States and NATO to stop supplying Kyiv with arms if they are “really interested in resolving the Ukraine crisis”, Chinese state media has reported.

    “If the US and NATO are really interested in resolving the Ukraine crisis, then first of all, they should wake up and stop supplying the Kyiv regime with arms and ammunition,” Sergey Lavrov said in an interview with China’s official Xinhua news agency.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.alj...ly-state-media

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    April 30 - Russia’s foreign minister has again urged the United States and NATO to stop supplying Kyiv with arms if they are “really interested in resolving the Ukraine crisis”, Chinese state media has reported.

    “If the US and NATO are really interested in resolving the Ukraine crisis, then first of all, they should wake up and stop supplying the Kyiv regime with arms and ammunition,” Sergey Lavrov said in an interview with China’s official Xinhua news agency.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.alj...ly-state-media
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    Russia complains about Western arms flowing into Ukraine, but Putin's troops are giving Kyiv far more heavy weaponry as they retreat

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bus...-2022-10%3famp

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    facts??? ROFL..
    You would find little to roll your fat ass about were it not for facts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Given that Ukraine is history's largest graveyard of Russian tanks, Vlad would prefer a defenseless and helpless rape victim.
    Ukraine is no longer low on artillery ammo because Russia abandoned so much in recent retreats, report says

    Ukraine also uses some of the same weapons Russia uses too?!!

    Ukraine is now well-supplied with artillery ammo taken from the Russian retreat, the WSJ reported.

    Ukraine's soldiers faced severe shortages of ammunition earlier in the war.

    As most of its arsenal is Soviet or Russian-made, there are limited sources of resupply for Ukraine.


    Ammunition left behind by fleeing Russian troops is filling Ukraine's depleted reserves and powering its counter-offensive, according to The Wall Street Journal.

    Russia's hurried retreat from Kharkiv in early September saw soldiers abandoning a mass of hardware, including tanks, other armored vehicles and howitzers.

    They also left behind huge quantities of Soviet-caliber artillery shells, the paper reported.

    "The Russians no longer have a firepower advantage," one unnamed artillery officer told the paper.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/ukra...ns-wsj-2022-10

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    Quote Originally Posted by signalmankenneth View Post
    Ukraine is no longer low on artillery ammo because Russia abandoned so much in recent retreats, report says

    Ukraine also uses some of the same weapons Russia uses too?!!

    Ukraine is now well-supplied with artillery ammo taken from the Russian retreat, the WSJ reported.

    Ukraine's soldiers faced severe shortages of ammunition earlier in the war.

    As most of its arsenal is Soviet or Russian-made, there are limited sources of resupply for Ukraine.


    Ammunition left behind by fleeing Russian troops is filling Ukraine's depleted reserves and powering its counter-offensive, according to The Wall Street Journal.

    Russia's hurried retreat from Kharkiv in early September saw soldiers abandoning a mass of hardware, including tanks, other armored vehicles and howitzers.

    They also left behind huge quantities of Soviet-caliber artillery shells, the paper reported.

    "The Russians no longer have a firepower advantage," one unnamed artillery officer told the paper.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/ukra...ns-wsj-2022-10
    Yes, it's funny that Putin and his JPP mouthpieces are blaming NATO weapons for Russian failure, when the recent Ukrainian offensives are being driven by captured Russian equipment turned against Putin.

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    Putin ally urges Russian defense minister to kill himself as losses mount


    An official appointed by Russia to oversee a partially occupied region of Ukraine has urged Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu to take his own life in response to a major Ukrainian counteroffensive.


    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...8a69caef99e086
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    Putin begs Biden to stop arming Ukraine
    Wasn't Biden begging Putin not to use tactical nukes ?
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    We don't know what happened after that . "

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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    Wasn't Biden begging Putin not to use tactical nukes ?
    No, Joe Biden warned Putin Russia would face catastrophic consequences if Vlad nuked Ukraine.

    I have no doubt that a Russian nuclear strike on Ukraine would trigger sustained NATO air and missile strikes on Russian occupying forces and on the Black Sea fleet. The Black Sea fleet would be destroyed in 48 hours, and all offensive capabilities of the Russian occupiers would be destroyed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    No, Joe Biden warned Putin Russia would face catastrophic consequences if Vlad nuked Ukraine.
    No doubt Putin has warned Klepto Joe of similar if he continues to fuel the war.

    Your interpretation of Putin's request as ' begging ' and Biden's as ' a warning ' emphasize what a flagrant war-mongering pseudo-patriotic bugler you are.



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