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On the subject of propaganda, there are some that claim that the Ukrainians are very skilled in that black art. Here is confirmation that Moskva didn't sink in rough seas but was attacked by missiles as stated by them. Further proof that Russians cannot be trusted on just about anything.
Images have emerged which appear to give a first glimpse at Russia flagship Moskva after it was blown up by Ukrainian missiles last week before it sunk to the bottom of the Black Sea.
The pictures, which seem to have been taken from a rescue vessel alongside the stricken Russian warship, show damage its left side along with flames burning below deck and a thick pall of black smoke rising into the sky.
Moskva is shown sitting low in the water, leaning to the port side, and appears to have deployed its lifeboats with no crew visible on board. Its rear helicopter door is also open, suggesting the aircraft has taken off. There also seems to be a firefighting ship behind the vessel which is spraying jets of water into the air.
Multiple black marks scar the port-side of the ship, including several near deck-level where smoke appears to have streamed out of portholes and left marks on the paint. But there are also dark marks close to the waterline that don't match the position of portholes and suggest the ship has sustained external damage.
The images are largely consistent with Ukrainian descriptions of the sinking - that the Moskva was hit by two missiles on its port side which sparked a fire and caused it to roll - and contradict Russia's account which was that the ship suffered a fire and internal explosion in rough seas.
Video has also since emerged which appears to show two rescue vessels approaching the burning ship - one to the left side and one to the right - in which a Russian voice can be heard speaking. One man says 'what the f*** are you doing?' before the short clip ends.
Analysts and experts who reviewed the images say they do appear genuine. It is unlikely that Russia will confirm the authenticity of the pictures, amid a near-total information blackout around the sinking which is a huge embarrassment to Vladimir Putin's beleaguered armed forces.
Moscow did stage what appeared to be a parade of crew members in the port of Sevastopol - in occupied Crimea - on Sunday, during which the captain of the warship and between 150 and 250 members of its crew were shown on camera alongside Black Sea Admiral Nikolai Yevmenov. The Moskva typically carries up to 510 sailors, and there was no word on the whereabouts of the remaining crew or their condition.
But horror accounts of the sinking have started to emerge from conscripts serving on board the ship, with one telling his parents that at least 40 members of the crew were killed with 'many' left missing or maimed with lost limbs after the strike. Hundreds are thought to have died as the vessel went down.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...a-sinking.html
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AProudLefty (04-18-2022), cancel2 2022 (04-18-2022), Earl (04-18-2022)
Great work, Ukraine!
Wow! If heavy seas could do that to that commie tin can, imagine what 2 Ukrainian Neptune anti-ship missiles could do to it! Vlad should stick to land-based methods of murdering civilians.
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Where indeed, no doubt Moonshi'ite will be along shortly to deliver the official Kremlin line. Margarita Simonyan will deliver a BJ and some roubles as per usual.
Where are our sons? Fury grows amongst the families of the Moskva's crew as they demand answers over how many were killed when the pride of Russia's fleet 'was struck by Ukrainian missiles' amid claims of a cover-up
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-cover-up.html
ExpressLane (04-18-2022)
Looks to me that the crew was incompetent. Most survived the missile hits. The ship was afloat and could have been saved. It is likely that the crew and available damage control equipment and methods were sufficiently poor in quality that they couldn't fight the damage. And, yes, I am something of an expert on damage control on ships. I've been party to several serious incidents on US ships like fires and flooding, taken all sorts of damage control training, and what I see in those photos was, on a US Navy ship, something the crew could should have handled and saved the ship.
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