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    Quote Originally Posted by American Man View Post
    The classic American Dream has been dead for decades.
    It's not dead yet, but Democrats are doing their level best to kill it.
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    Once upon a time, a man with a high school education could work 40 hrs and support a family, buy a decent house, and drive a decent car.
    He still can.
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    Back then, wealth was distributed more fairly.
    Back then, government didn't steal nearly as much of it for themselves.
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    Now, wealth is balanced towards the upper class and the working class is left suffering;
    There is no 'working class'. You are quoting Karl Marx again.
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    two adults need to work full-time just to support one household,
    No, they don't.
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    while CEOs make more now than they ever have. Free-market capitalism has gutted America.
    It can't. Anyone that wants to provide a service or product voluntarily to sell to others voluntarily can do so.
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    But there are ways that we working class people
    There is no 'working class'.
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    can reclaim some of the wealth we helped create.
    It isn't yours to reclaim. You are talking about theft of wealth.
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    Personally, I invest 100% of my 401k in S&P500 index funds. I also max out my IRA, also 100% invested in SP500 index funds. The SP500 realizes an annual avg. of 10.5%, which means I'll be worth at least $2.5 million by retirement age.
    Lousy investments these days.
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    (And we learned in 2008 that the SP500 is "too big to fail," so it's the safest bet in the stock market. If it fails, it means the entire US economy has failed, and at that point, no investment would have saved me.) In the near future, I plan on opening a taxable brokerage account to invest in more SP500 index funds with any extra cash I have beyond retirement investments.
    The government can't save it.
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    The point is that we need to be proactive in reclaiming the wealth we created.
    Theft is theft, dude.
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    Aggeessive investing is the only way to reclaim a piece of the money pie that we rightfully deserve.
    Money is not wealth. Examples: Yen, Rubles, dollars, etc. Fiat money has NO inherent value at all.
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    Depending on politicans to magically fix the system -- to "make America great again" or whatever -- is a pipe dream that they use to gain votes.
    Nope. It was happening until Democrats destroyed it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Void argument fallacy. You can't even described the corruption. It is obvious you are intentionally ignoring the communism. Examples of it have already been shown to you.
    Yet, once again you continue to support Donald Trump who gave us a massive increase in the size of communist government. That sweetheart makes no sense, and you continue to support Putin and Russia who comes about as close to Communism as you can get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    Yet, once again you continue to support Donald Trump who gave us a massive increase in the size of communist government. That sweetheart makes no sense, and you continue to support Putin and Russia who comes about as close to Communism as you can get.
    How was Trumps governance considered “Communist?”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Dutch View Post
    Agreed. Shooting angry Trumpers should be a national pastime.
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    Only conclusion. Going to a Christian school causes you to be a mass murderer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leaningright View Post
    How was Trumps governance considered “Communist?”
    From your previous post, it would seem that anything done by the Federal government would be considered Communist, yet I say again, that you supported the massive increase in government by the trump administration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Dutch View Post
    Agreed. Shooting angry Trumpers should be a national pastime.
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    Only conclusion. Going to a Christian school causes you to be a mass murderer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Dillon View Post
    The changing of B.C. and A.D.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lionfish View Post
    No Tesla cost $35k and there are thousands of individual batteries in each and every EV. The key word here is lithium, fuck the ion.
    Actually, you're fucked by the ion too. That makes use of cobalt, and even harder to get material than lithium (and a big part of what makes the Li-ion battery so prone to fire). The current base price of a Tesla Model 3 is $46990. Source: Tesla Automotive Co.
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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    Yet, once again you continue to support Donald Trump who gave us a massive increase in the size of communist government. That sweetheart makes no sense, and you continue to support Putin and Russia who comes about as close to Communism as you can get.
    No. FDR and Democrats gave us massive increase in the size of government. Communism is not a form of government.

    Putin is not the people of Russia. I do not support him. Word stuffing. Buzzword fallacies.

    You can't lay YOUR problems on anyone else, dude. They are YOUR problems. Inversion fallacy (projection).

    Trump is a conservative. He is not communist or even a socialist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by leaningright View Post
    How was Trumps governance considered “Communist?”
    The word 'communist' has no meaning for floridafan. He uses it as a general insult.
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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    From your previous post, it would seem that anything done by the Federal government would be considered Communist, yet I say again, that you supported the massive increase in government by the trump administration.
    There was no massive increase in government under Trump. You can blame FDR and the Democrats for that.
    Inversion fallacy. Buzzword fallacy. Go learn what 'communist' means.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Dutch View Post
    Agreed. Shooting angry Trumpers should be a national pastime.
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    Only conclusion. Going to a Christian school causes you to be a mass murderer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Dutch View Post
    Agreed. Shooting angry Trumpers should be a national pastime.
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    Only conclusion. Going to a Christian school causes you to be a mass murderer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Actually, you're fucked by the ion too. That makes use of cobalt, and even harder to get material than lithium (and a big part of what makes the Li-ion battery so prone to fire). The current base price of a Tesla Model 3 is $46990. Source: Tesla Automotive Co.
    I know but two bigs words when you are dealing with an irrational leftie......
    Base price is meaningless. I have never seen one go for less than $60K out the door. Four year old lease returns (which most Tesla buyers are doing) run over $50K plus 7% tax and Lic.
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    Agreed. Shooting angry Trumpers should be a national pastime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    No. FDR and Democrats gave us massive increase in the size of government. Communism is not a form of government.

    Putin is not the people of Russia. I do not support him. Word stuffing. Buzzword fallacies.

    You can't lay YOUR problems on anyone else, dude. They are YOUR problems. Inversion fallacy (projection).

    Trump is a conservative. He is not communist or even a socialist.
    Address the fact that trump gave us not only a massive increase in the size of government, but also handed us the largest 4 year deficit in our history. Total complete failure

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