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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    It did not take you long to prove what I said'
    Which is?
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    This stupid video
    You like finding stupid videos? You must be a fan of TikTok.
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    distills down to first cause argument. The idea that something had to cause the beginning temperature and matter, implies there must be something that did it. The problem is what caused that? Where did it come from? It is turtles all the way down.
    How do you know there was a 'cause'? How do you know what that 'cause' is?
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    We do not know what was there before the big bang.
    How do you know there we ever a Big Bang?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Physicists do not keep changing things. They accumulate information and adapt the teaching to reflect that. It is how the scientific method works. The info changes things and they add it to their knowledge base and change the results accordingly.
    Like masks and lockdowns don't work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Which is?

    You like finding stupid videos? You must be a fan of TikTok.

    How do you know there was a 'cause'? How do you know what that 'cause' is?

    How do you know there we ever a Big Bang?
    https://usm.maine.edu/planet/how-do-...-bang-occurred
    It works as a solution to the equations that define how the universe works. There is an enormous amount of accumulated evidence, many from CERN. We are much more knowledgeable about physics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    ...deleted link to scripture...
    Scripture isn't a theory of science.
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    It works as a solution to the equations that define how the universe works.
    There are no equations that define how the universe works.
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    There is an enormous amount of accumulated evidence,
    Science does not use supporting evidence. Only religions do that.
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    many from CERN.
    I don't care where your scripture comes from.
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    We are much more knowledgeable about physics.
    Nothing to do with physics.

    Science has no theories about any past unobserved event. They are not falsifiable. You can't go back in time to see what actually happened (if anything).

    The Theory of the Big Bang is religion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Scripture isn't a theory of science.

    There are no equations that define how the universe works.

    Science does not use supporting evidence. Only religions do that.

    I don't care where your scripture comes from.

    Nothing to do with physics.

    Science has no theories about any past unobserved event. They are not falsifiable. You can't go back in time to see what actually happened (if anything).

    The Theory of the Big Bang is religion.
    Just stop that. It is so fucking stupid. Playing opposites is childish. You just say something is not true and then flee. The concepts of debate and proof are beyond you. Are you in high school?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Physicists do not keep changing things. They accumulate information and adapt the teaching to reflect that. It is how the scientific method works. The info changes things and they add it to their knowledge base and change the results accordingly.
    uh...ok?
    Don't be afraid to see what you see

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guille View Post
    uh...ok?
    Yes, they seek the truth. Do not misunderstand that they are totally changing knowledge. They are refining it.
    Fo things change when science changed from geocentricity to heleiocentricity. It changes everything yet nothing to people;'s lives. Do rightys think that was a sign that science is flawed? Nope. It adapts with knowledge. It is on a constant mission to discover as much as it can. That is the opposite of religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Just stop that. It is so fucking stupid. Playing opposites is childish. You just say something is not true and then flee. The concepts of debate and proof are beyond you. Are you in high school?
    You are hallucinating again. No one is playing opposites.
    You are not making any proof either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guille View Post
    uh...ok?
    Actually, not ok. He's teaching religion is science.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Yes, they seek the truth.
    Science isn't a Universal Truth. Only religions claim that. Science is a set of falsifiable theories.
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    Do not misunderstand that they are totally changing knowledge.
    Science isn't knowledge either. It is a set of falsifiable theories.
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    They are refining it.
    Science isn't 'refining' anything.
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    For things change when science changed from geocentricity to heleiocentricity.
    The Theory of an Earth centered universe was falsified by Galileo.
    The Theory of a Sun centered universe was falsified by Newton and Einstein.
    Neither is a theory of science anymore.
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    It changes everything yet nothing to people;'s lives.
    Paradox. Irrational.
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    Do rightys think that was a sign that science is flawed?
    You are pivoting. That's a fallacy. The discussion is about the Theory of the Big Bang, which was never a theory of science. It is a religion.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Nope. It adapts with knowledge.
    Science isn't knowledge. Science is a set of falsifiable theories. It is not possible to prove any theory True. It IS possible to show a theory of science to be False. It is NOT possible to show a nonscientific theory to be False. A nonscientific theory remains a circular argument. If arguments extend from it, that makes it a religion. The Theory of the Big Bang is a religion. Indeed, many people try to prove the circular argument True. That is not possible. That is what a fundamentalist does.
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    It is on a constant mission to discover as much as it can.
    Science isn't 'discovery'. Science is a set of falsifiable theories.
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    That is the opposite of religion.
    The Theory of the Big Bang is NOT science. It is a religion, with many fundamentalists in it (including you).

    It is not possible to test the null hypothesis of this theory (or any other theory concerning an unobserved event). Science requires this test to be available, practical, specific, and to produce a specific result. This is what 'falsifiable' means. Every theory of science is falsifiable. That is the very definition of science...a set of falsifiable theories.

    It is also not possible to prove any theory True (regardless of whether it's a theory of science or not).

    For example (since you brought it up):

    The theory of science that the Earth was the center of the Universe was first created by Aristotle. He assumed the Earth was stationary (well, you can't feel any motion, can you?) and that everything else orbited the Earth.
    This theory was falsified by Galileo when he was able to show that moons orbit Jupiter, blowing the whole Earth centric model to hell. It did NOT prove the Earth orbited the Sun (a different theory of science), but just that the Earth centered model was False.

    The theory of science that the Earth orbited the Sun and everything else orbited the pair (the Tychonian model) was falsified by Kepler. He was able to show that Mars also orbited the Sun, and did that for Jupiter and the other planets as well. The Tychonian theory is no longer a theory of science.

    The theory of science that everything orbits the Sun was falsified by Newton and again by Einstein. They were able to show that a) everything has gravity, including the Sun, and that bodies in space orbit each other, and b) that nothing is stationary.

    The current theory of science states concerning this is that all bodies orbit each other around a point called the barycenter.
    This stems from the theory of Gravitational Attraction created by Newton. It is testable. It is falsifiable. So far the theory has not yet been falsified. It is still a theory of science. The equation tested is F=G * (m1*m2) / r^2 where 'F' is force, 'G' is a natural constant (which serves to convert the relation to our units of measurement), 'm1' and 'm2' are two masses, and 'r' is the distance between them.

    If ANYTHING falsifies this equation, it will be falsified. It will no longer be a theory of science. So far, it has not yet been falsified.


    The Theory of the Big Bang cannot be tested. It is not possible to go back in time to see what actually happened. Science has NO theories about any unobserved event. They are not falsifiable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    You are hallucinating again. No one is playing opposites.
    You are not making any proof either.
    You are. Quit lying. You just say the opposite and run away.
    The big bang is not religion. Perhaps your stupidity is. The backf\ground radiation map shows there was an explosion 14.5 billion years ago.https://www.wired.com/2010/10/spacec...und-radiation/ You are too ignorant to deal with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    You are. Quit lying. You just say the opposite and run away.
    I am convinced you have no idea what 'opposite' even means.
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    The big bang is not religion.
    It is a religion. It is not a falsifiable theory.
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    Perhaps your stupidity is. The backf\ground radiation map shows there was an explosion 14.5 billion years ago.
    It shows no such thing. Also note that supporting evidence is not used in science. Only religions do that.
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    You are too ignorant to deal with.
    Inversion fallacy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Actually, not ok. He's teaching religion is science.
    I know he is.
    Don't be afraid to see what you see

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Yes, they seek the truth. Do not misunderstand that they are totally changing knowledge. They are refining it.
    Fo things change when science changed from geocentricity to heleiocentricity. It changes everything yet nothing to people;'s lives. Do rightys think that was a sign that science is flawed? Nope. It adapts with knowledge. It is on a constant mission to discover as much as it can. That is the opposite of religion.
    I think you're missing my point. YOU are not a scientist and after having read your posts...for far too long...I know YOU do not seek knowledge. Don't hide behind scientists and science, I know you have no understanding of either. I quoted you and even went to the trouble of highlighting the relevant portion where you contradicted yourself.
    Don't be afraid to see what you see

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Jeffrey Spetch View Post
    Anything to rake in the funding eh ... like keep changing the formula while still calling it the big bang theory ...

    While watching this just over four minute video think catalyst ...

    https://www.brighteon.com/324a2be6-5...9-009ad180fae7
    I just started the video, and Oh My!!! 23 second in, and it is so much worse than I thought.

    Clearly "everything that ever existed will always exist" is wrong. People live and die. Buildings are built and crumble. Science has no idea what was before the Big Bang, but in theory there was something there before.
    Daniel Patrick Moynihan said it best, "You are entitled to your opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts."
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