"What Should Russia Do With Ukraine"

[archives]

You'd see it better if it was you that lost twenty million civilians to the Nazis.

Ah, that was like eighty years ago, and probability is most of that Russian generation has since passed, the history and film is atrocious, but find it hard to believe today's Russians identify with it

[anatta]

Ah, that was like eighty years ago, and probability is most of that Russian generation has since passed, the history and film is atrocious, but find it hard to believe today's Russians identify with it

The Second World War is still officially remembered in Russia and throughout the former Soviet Union as the Great Patriotic War (June 22, 1941 - May 9, 1945). It is difficult to overstate how important memory of the Soviet struggle has become to present-day Russia. A very selective narrative of that conflict with Nazi Germany forms an integral part of Russian political culture and a tool of policymaking. Understanding Soviet wartime mobilization helps us contextualize contemporary rhetoric.
https://www.nationalww2museum.org/wa...vasion-ukraine

[moon]

Ah, that was like eighty years ago, and probability is most of that Russian generation has since passed, the history and film is atrocious, but find it hard to believe today's Russians identify with it

You think that Japanese kids aren't taught about Hiroshima / Nagasaki and Vietnamese kids about Agent Orange ?

[Hawkeye10]

You think that Japanese kids aren't taught about Hiroshima / Nagasaki and Vietnamese kids about Agent Orange ?

Knowing about and identifying with are two completely different things idiot.

[archives]

The Second World War is still officially remembered in Russia and throughout the former Soviet Union as the Great Patriotic War (June 22, 1941 - May 9, 1945). It is difficult to overstate how important memory of the Soviet struggle has become to present-day Russia. A very selective narrative of that conflict with Nazi Germany forms an integral part of Russian political culture and a tool of policymaking. Understanding Soviet wartime mobilization helps us contextualize contemporary rhetoric.
https://www.nationalww2museum.org/wa...vasion-ukraine

I understand that, but what I find question is that for a people eighty years removed from those events, several generations, especially given the availability of social media and its' emphasis on today, exactly how relevant is it to the Russian population?

Is it Russian oligarchs and politicians who have never really had to come up with political realties stuck in the last Century with the only references they have ever used are antiquated political themes they are now employing hoping to rally the people? Got to believe the Russian people, at least they under sixty population, are smarter than that

[Jarod]

We might ask what Ukraine should do with Russia!

[moon]

Knowing about and identifying with are two completely different things idiot.

For YOU, dumbass.

[McRocket]

Indeed, Jack.

All officers and NCO's who participated in the war crimes must be court-martialed and sent to prison along with the enlisted who participated in war crimes.

Putin mus be tried as a war criminal.

Does that include Ukrainian's who committed war crimes?

Does that also include all Americans who committed war crimes in Iraq and Afghanistan?

[McRocket]

Russia has already made their point in humiliating us.

They've demonstrated that we're willing to attack hapless nations like Afghanistan and Iraq,
not that we could manage the occupations once we were there,

but when Russia invades an actual, civilized European nation like the Ukraine,
we're scare shitless to do anything.

I was drafted to go to Vietnam for absolutely no sensible reason.
Nobody is being drafted to go to the Ukraine for a legitimate reason...the preservation of Europe.

Americans can only look in the mirror to check their makeup...not to really look at themselves.
They don't have the courage for that.

Okay...so what should America be doing that they are not...in your mind?