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    Quote Originally Posted by Darla View Post
    Maybe. I think that some of these guys are hypocrites yes, like Ken Melham. But some others I think are suffering from some real self-hatred, and that they should get some therapy for real. They shouldn't live that way. There's no reason for them to feel that way, but I think that they do. And that's a shame.
    To phrase it another way, was Roy Cohn an evil, murderous hypocrit or an evil, murderous, self-hating lunatic?

    Personally, I suspect he was genuinely insane.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OrnotBitwise View Post
    To phrase it another way, was Roy Cohn an evil, murderous hypocrit or an evil, murderous, self-hating lunatic?

    Personally, I suspect he was genuinely insane.

    Yep, he's his own case. I think he probably was Ornot. But today, I think of someone like Ken Melham as not being self-hating at all. I think he uses the anti-gay base to gain first of all, personal power, and second of all, a pro-corporate agenda. So it's all about money and power, and I personally view him as someone who smirks about the "wackos" and what use he has been able to make of them. So I have an intense loathing of that ammoral shit.

    But someone like this guy, I think that maybe there is something else going on. I have some sympathy for him I guess. I could be wrong. No one really knows what drives someone else.

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    I think the one was a nutjob using the church and family to hide, I think the other was somebody who had a family and church to help him "keep the faith" and lost the battle.
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