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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Dillon View Post
    "Democrats on the House Intelligence Committee released on Thursday more than 3,000 Facebook ads from 2015 to late 2017 bought by the Russia-based Internet Research Agency (IRA). The company, which is linked to Russia-backed propaganda efforts across social media, used these ads on Facebook -- and on Facebook-owned Instagram -- to try to create political chaos and hurt US democracy, lawmakers said."

    https://www.cnet.com/news/politics/c...t-by-russians/

    Russians bought ad space on FB to influence the 2016 election. Zuckerberg took their money.

    You can download them here: https://intelligence.house.gov/socia...rtisements.htm

    ^Notice that is a government website.
    Good to see one of you Trumptards finally admit that the Russians interfered in the 2016 election by flooding social media with pro-Trump and anti-Clinton propaganda in order to help Trump get elected.

    Awesome!!!!


    https://i.postimg.cc/PqVCnGks/gojoe1.jpg
    C'MON MAN!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    Good to see one of you Trumptards finally admit that the Russians interfered in the 2016 election by flooding social media with pro-Trump and anti-Clinton propaganda in order to help Trump get elected.

    Awesome!!!!


    It wasn't to get Trump elected, fucktard. They were about equal on the candidate bashing. It was to sow division.







    That last one's fomenting riots in Ferguson and all that.

    The majority I'm seeing so far are looking to cause racial division.

    Oh! Hillary anti-2nd amendment ad..ok..

    Muslims in America..328K likes.
    Last edited by Matt Dillon; 03-22-2022 at 09:22 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier Daddy View Post
    maybe bec

    bye jerkoff troll!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Dillon View Post
    It wasn't to get Trump elected, fucktard. They were about equal on the candidate bashing. It was to sow division.

    That last one's fomenting riots in Ferguson and all that.

    The majority I'm seeing so far are looking to cause racial division.

    Oh! Hillary anti-2nd amendment ad..ok..

    Muslims in America..328K likes.
    Everybody knows you are like every other Trumptard apologist and excuse maker... full of shit.

    Puti even said he wanted Trump to be President.

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...on-2016-722486
    https://i.postimg.cc/PqVCnGks/gojoe1.jpg
    C'MON MAN!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    Everybody knows you are like every other Trumptard apologist and excuse maker... full of shit.

    Puti even said he wanted Trump to be President.

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...on-2016-722486
    Here, faggot: Look through what the Russians did and show me some pro-Trump posts from their sock army, k?

    IF your dumbass can figure out how....

    https://intelligence.house.gov/socia...rtisements.htm

    You will need something to extract zip files and a PDF reader.

    So far all I've seen is BLM-type riot fomenting and 1 Hillary anti 2nd amendment post.

    You mean you haven't done this before? Why not, Buck?

    To make it easier for you...start from the back to the front.
    Last edited by Matt Dillon; 03-22-2022 at 03:38 PM.

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    US and UK intelligence agencies have both concluded that Russia interfered in the 2016 election with motive to get Trump elected.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russ...ates_elections

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Dillon View Post
    Russian FB trolls. How many have been brought to trial?

    Do keep in mind that Zuckerberg accepted their money and allowed them on FB.
    Well, last I heard, the Justice Department dropped charges on a couple of them on the list. Problem is the Trolls all live in Russia and we have no jurisdiction there.

    Concord has stalled the courts claiming they want access to discovery evidence. But the other 13 are still being charged pending arrests.

    Justice Department lawyers second-guessed the decision to charge the Russian companies, fearing that its lawyers could game the legal system to obtain sensitive information from the US government.

    The Justice Department alluded to some of these issues in its motion to drop the case. The filing indicates that the case against the 13 Russians remains alive, though it is unlikely that any of them will ever step foot in a country that would extradite them to the United States.

    The case revolved around efforts by the Russians to influence US politics over social media, which they did in an unprecedented fashion during the 2016 election, primarily to help Trump win the presidency, according to the Mueller report. The Kremlin-backed troll farm has changed its tactics but is up and running for the 2022 election.

    Prosecutors also note that some evidence wouldn't be available for them to use in an unclassified way at trial, making their case more difficult to prosecute without putting national security secrets at risk.

    Back in the day, Zuckerberg claimed he was protecting people's rights to be allowed to post on his sight because they were protected by the 1st Amendment!

    Duh WTF?

    But then he was reminded by the state department that Russians living in Russia are not protected by 1st Amendment rights, so instead of looking like a complete idiot, he has agreed to work with the Department to ban them from his site. Problem is they just create new identities and mac addresses and keep on posting the Russian Propaganda.

    So stay tuned! Not too sure what can be done to prevent them in the future, but what would help is if people were educated on how Russian Propaganda works and how to use one's own common sense to recognize it when they see it! Russian Trolls are everywhere- even here among us at JPP!

    I suppose it is just too difficult for Right-Wingers to be true Patriots and stop relaying Russian Propaganda when Russian Propaganda helped Donald Trump win his 2016 election and already working to help Right-Wingers win the 2022 election and ultimately Donald Trump winning again in 2024.

    Meanwhile, Fox News has become Russian Propaganda Central and the Russian Troll Farm is now actually posting Fox News clips as part of POOTY'S Ukraine War and Propaganda efforts.
    Last edited by Geeko Sportivo; 03-22-2022 at 08:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    Well, last I heard, the Justice Department dropped charges on a couple of them on the list. Problem is the Trolls all live in Russia and we have no jurisdiction there.

    Concord has stalled the courts claiming they want access to discovery evidence. But the other 13 are still being charged pending arrests.

    Justice Department lawyers second-guessed the decision to charge the Russian companies, fearing that its lawyers could game the legal system to obtain sensitive information from the US government.

    The Justice Department alluded to some of these issues Monday (Monday before last) in its motion to drop the case. The filing indicates that the case against the 13 Russians remains alive, though it is unlikely that any of them will ever step foot in a country that would extradite them to the United States.

    The case revolved around efforts by the Russians to influence US politics over social media, which they did in an unprecedented fashion during the 2016 election, primarily to help Trump win the presidency, according to the Mueller report. The Kremlin-backed troll farm has changed its tactics but is up and running for the 2022 election.

    Prosecutors also note that some evidence wouldn't be available for them to use in an unclassified way at trial, making their case more difficult to prosecute without putting national security secrets at risk.

    Back in the day, Zuckerberg claimed he was protecting people's rights to be allowed to post on his sight because they were protected by the 1st Amendment!

    Duh WTF?

    But then he was reminded by the state department that Russians living in Russia are not protected by 1st Amendment rights, so instead of looking like a complete idiot, he has agreed to work with the Department to ban them from his site. Problem is they just create new identities and mac addresses and keep on posting the Russian Propaganda.

    So stay tuned! Not too sure what can be done to prevent them in the future, but what would help is if people were educated on how Russian Propaganda works and how to use one's own common sense to recognize it when they see it! Russian Trolls are everywhere- even here among us at JPP!
    Zuckerberg got a pass for letting Russians interfere with an American election and you're OK with it, amirite?

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    Quote Originally Posted by American Man View Post
    US and UK intelligence agencies have both concluded that Russia interfered in the 2016 election with motive to get Trump elected.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russ...ates_elections
    Why don't you show the proof of it from the government files? Are you too much of a mental midget to do so? I think you are!

    You're using Wikipedia, I'm using the actual government link to all the Russian spam troll posts, faggot.

    Right here, prove your case! (or STFU with your bullshit)

    https://intelligence.house.gov/socia...rtisements.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Dillon View Post
    Zuckerberg got a pass for letting Russians interfere with an American election and you're OK with it, amirite?
    No Sir- Not a fan of ZUCK FUCK or FaceFuck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    No Sir- Not a fan of ZUCK FUCK or FaceFuck!
    Al-righty then!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    Well, last I heard, the Justice Department dropped charges on a couple of them on the list. Problem is the Trolls all live in Russia and we have no jurisdiction there.

    Concord has stalled the courts claiming they want access to discovery evidence. But the other 13 are still being charged pending arrests.

    Justice Department lawyers second-guessed the decision to charge the Russian companies, fearing that its lawyers could game the legal system to obtain sensitive information from the US government.

    The Justice Department alluded to some of these issues in its motion to drop the case. The filing indicates that the case against the 13 Russians remains alive, though it is unlikely that any of them will ever step foot in a country that would extradite them to the United States.

    The case revolved around efforts by the Russians to influence US politics over social media, which they did in an unprecedented fashion during the 2016 election, primarily to help Trump win the presidency, according to the Mueller report. The Kremlin-backed troll farm has changed its tactics but is up and running for the 2022 election.

    Prosecutors also note that some evidence wouldn't be available for them to use in an unclassified way at trial, making their case more difficult to prosecute without putting national security secrets at risk.

    Back in the day, Zuckerberg claimed he was protecting people's rights to be allowed to post on his sight because they were protected by the 1st Amendment!

    Duh WTF?

    But then he was reminded by the state department that Russians living in Russia are not protected by 1st Amendment rights, so instead of looking like a complete idiot, he has agreed to work with the Department to ban them from his site. Problem is they just create new identities and mac addresses and keep on posting the Russian Propaganda.

    So stay tuned! Not too sure what can be done to prevent them in the future, but what would help is if people were educated on how Russian Propaganda works and how to use one's own common sense to recognize it when they see it! Russian Trolls are everywhere- even here among us at JPP!

    I suppose it is just too difficult for Right-Wingers to be true Patriots and stop relaying Russian Propaganda when Russian Propaganda helped Donald Trump win his 2016 election and already working to help Right-Wingers win the 2022 election and ultimately Donald Trump winning again in 2024.

    Meanwhile, Fox News has become Russian Propaganda Central and the Russian Troll Farm is now actually posting Fox News clips as part of POOTY'S Ukraine War and Propaganda efforts.
    The people behind the 2020 steal are all right here.

    https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    The people behind the 2020 steal are all right here.

    https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/
    But, I don't have a Time subscription!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    But, I don't have a Time subscription!

    Time Magazine Gushingly Profiles The Successful ‘Conspiracy’ To Rig The 2020 Election

    Time magazine’s article intones the ‘Trump is crazy’ mantra over his claims of a ‘rigged’ election while telling anyone who reads it how powerful people conspired to rig the 2020 election.

    By Joy Pullmann
    February 9, 2021

    Corporate media has spent the last year arguing that Donald Trump’s claims about 2020 election integrity amount to “seditious” conspiracy theories. While maintaining that narrative despite the cognitive dissonance, Time magazine’s Feb. 4 cover story pulls back the curtain on a “conspiracy” among a “well-funded cabal of powerful people” in an “an extraordinary shadow effort” that successfully pushed Trump from office.

    “In a way, Trump was right,” writes Time national political correspondent Molly Ball. “There was a conspiracy unfolding behind the scenes.” She later describes this “conspiracy” as something that “sounds like a paranoid fever dream — a well-funded cabal of powerful people, ranging across industries and ideologies, working together behind the scenes to influence perceptions, change rules and laws, steer media coverage and control the flow of information.”

    Trump was treated like he had three heads for complaining the election was “rigged.” In the infamous speech he gave as violence broke out in the U.S. Capitol the day Congress certified the Electoral College votes, Trump said, “This year they rigged the election. They rigged it like they’ve never rigged an election before.” The left and some Republicans like Rep. Liz Cheney have insisted Trump’s strong claims like this incited an “insurrection.”

    Yet Ball makes exactly these kinds of claims in the Time article, and goes on to substantiate them. It’s really hard to tell if the article is just a gloating bat flip, a horrifying attempt to radicalize more people among Democrats’ political opposition, or evidence the left believes Americans are so deadened under Democrat control they will not react to such public revelations of conspiracies to betray American self-governance.

    The article is above all a striking work of doublespeak. It intones the “Trump is crazy” mantra at Trump’s charges of election-rigging while telling how powerful people conspired to rig the 2020 election. Ball documents a massive election-manipulation “conspiracy” among the nation’s rich and powerful. She shows an amazing level of contempt combined with ignorance about how someone who believes in self-government, as opposed to rule by oligarchs, might take this information.

    Election Tampering

    The conspiracy’s “work touched every aspect of the election,” Ball writes. “They got states to change voting systems and laws and helped secure hundreds of millions in public and private funding. They fended off voter-suppression lawsuits, recruited armies of poll workers and got millions of people to vote by mail for the first time.”

    This, she and the “dozens” of conspiracists she interviewed claim, is evidence of their efforts to “protect the election.” In fact, all of these tactics weaken election integrity.

    For example, mail-in ballots are known as an unreliable voting method, even without its potential assistance to criminal fraud such as ballot-stuffing, because they create margins of error well within the margin of actual votes in a close election. That’s why labor unions, Jeff Bezos, and many foreign countries refuse to use them.

    Therefore, in a mail-in election such as 2020, in which half of the total votes and most of the Biden votes were mail-in, one can control the outcome simply by controlling the poll-watchers and vote-counters. Even if they are honest, their unconscious bias or the simple mayhem of unreadable handwriting and signatures creates the conditions for untrustworthy results.

    We have no way of knowing how many of the approximately 65 million 2020 election mail-in ballots were legal — meaning, how many fully complied with all applicable state laws to be validly completed by eligible voters. It could be all of them. It might not be. Nobody with power seems to care to find out. Joe Biden “won,” and the bad orange man is finally gone. That’s all that matters to them, and anyone who has any concerns or questions is simply a stupid bigot, end of story, move along, nothing to see here, shut up you white supremacist domestic terrorist or we’ll put you in jail without any bail — you’re so lucky we haven’t already.

    One of the core problems with the 2020 election is that many states did not follow their voting laws, suspending them with the excuse of COVID (which the Centers for Disease Control said the day before the election, after most votes were already cast, was not necessary). States were pressured or forced to do so, not by what Ball hilariously calls Trump’s “henchmen,” but by lawyered-up leftist pressure groups that strategically undermined election protections with pre-emptive lawsuits while courts rolled over for them.

    These leftist lawyers were unquestionably the aggressors in this situation, as Hans van Spakovsky and others have documented, filing as many as four times the number of lawsuits Trump or Republicans filed. Their efforts caused the very “election confusion” Ball claims her vaunted “conspiracy” was trying to avoid. What do you call people who do one thing while claiming to do the opposite? Idiots or liars. And I don’t think these people are idiots.

    https://www.justplainpolitics.com/en...-2020-Election

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    no, its a pretext for martial law to cover the coming defaults in China, Russia and the USofA.

    You know, what Biden calls the new world order...
    "Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." Joseph Stalin
    The USA has lost WWIV to China with no other weapons but China Virus and some cash to buy democrats.

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