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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    It is one thing to be consistently wrong in predictions, but to top it of with whining and empty threats just goes off the charts.
    Agreed.

    Such behavior is proof of his level of character.

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    A daisy chain of JPP losers.


    Haw, haw...............................haw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    Putin caused this war.

    NATO is just an alliance. There is no aggression associated with it.

    Nah- it's NATO's war . Advancing eastward was calculated to bring matters to a head.
    The Russians were quite clear what the consequences would be.

    The list of consequences for Europe and the world at large grows daily- and when you whittle away at it looking for the ultimate perpetrator its..................


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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    Nah- it's NATO's war . Advancing eastward was calculated to bring matters to a head.
    The Russians were quite clear what the consequences would be.

    The list of consequences for Europe and the world at large grows daily- and when you whittle away at it looking for the ultimate perpetrator its..................


    Fuck the goddamn Russians and your Jihadist terrorists, Ms. Moon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    I didn't get the impression you started this thread to innocently provide news about the location of Russian tanks, without any agenda whatsoever..
    You'll see that the opening post contains two words.

    Utterly senseless.

    Cypress;
    I am one thousand percent positive you posted this thread because you were giddy with excitement and anticipation at the imminent fall of Kyiv.
    Now your stupidity is evident.
    " First they came for the journalists...
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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    You'll see that the opening post contains two words.

    Utterly senseless.

    Cypress;


    Now your stupidity is evident.
    The fact that it is literally too painful for you to admit the Russian army was decisively defeated at Kyiv and had to retreat tells me all I need to know about your pro-Kremlin imperialism agenda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    The fact that it is literally too painful for you to admit the Russian army was decisively defeated at Kyiv and had to retreat tells me all I need to know about your pro-Kremlin imperialism agenda.

    Again, dunderhead-

    'You'll see that the opening post contains two words.

    Utterly senseless.'

    Quite clearly , your attempt to recycle some semblance of Zelensky glory in the face of his current situation has led to this latest display of pseudo-patriotic stupidity.
    You are, as is now evident, a wanker.
    " First they came for the journalists...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Fuck the goddamn Russians and your Jihadist terrorists, Ms. Moon.
    Up yours, Kaffer-Kicker, with a short fuse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    Up yours, Kaffer-Kicker, with a short fuse.
    The entire world will see in the end that good, righteous, honest people will prevail over violent, hateful dishonest people like you, Dookie and all other haters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    The entire world will see in the end that good, righteous, honest people will prevail over violent, hateful dishonest people like you, Dookie and all other haters.
    Says the avid racist supporter of the Jewsih fascists of Israel.

    You're a joke, fella. Go find a a sleazebag to shoot up with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    Says the avid racist supporter of the Jewsih fascists of Israel.

    You're a joke, fella. Go find a a sleazebag to shoot up with.
    I support all free nations, Ms. Moon. If they support human rights and aim to better themselves, I'm good with it.

    As I've posted several times before, when Israel does something wrong, like shooting the reporter last week, then I expect them to do the right thing. Not sweep it under the rug as authoritarian shitbags like you would do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    The fact that it is literally too painful for you to admit the Russian army was decisively defeated at Kyiv and had to retreat tells me all I need to know about your pro-Kremlin imperialism agenda.
    I highly doubt the Russian Army was 'decisively defeated at Kyiv and forced to retreat'.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-...e_animated.gif
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Ukrainian_War

    As the above animated gif of the war so far shows - the Russians were not pushed back from retreat.
    They left - completely voluntarily.
    They even announced they were going to leave Kiev and all northern areas a few days before they pulled out.

    Also, there is no way that Ukraine could force Russian forces to retreat that fast and yet not be able to budge them almost anywhere else.
    That makes ZERO sense.
    CLEARLY, Russia voluntarily gave up ALL of their northern gains.

    But why?
    I assume because they were hoping to either divert Ukrainian troops from the Donbas...which was their obvious target from the beginning.
    And/or they were trying to 'scare' Zelenskyy into leaving/resigning.
    The former did not seem to work and the latter obviously did not work.

    Frankly, I think the entire advance north and north west of the Donbass by the Russians made little sense.
    It gained nothing.
    And makes them look weaker and gives the West resolve.

    But then?
    I do not understand Russia's tactics in this war anyway.

    I get why they are trying to take the Donbas.
    Their people voted over 85% to leave Ukraine back in 2014.
    But all the other advances seem wasteful and costly.

    Finally, I said in several posts before the war that Russia would not be able to defeat Ukraine easily.
    But I thought they would have more success than what they have had since the first couple of weeks.

    Could we/the West have been overestimating, Russia's military capabilities all these years?
    Or is Russia not really trying as hard as they can?
    Perhaps it is a bit of both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McRocket View Post
    I highly doubt the Russian Army was 'decisively defeated at Kyiv and forced to retreat'.
    I highly doubted it would happen... But when it happened, I believed it happened.

    Kyiv is less than 100 miles from the Belarus border. Russian troops were stationed at that border, so they were within a 100 miles of the capital. They were expected to capture the capital within 24 hours, and the rest of Ukraine within 72 hours. They pressed in from three sides, planning to cut Kyiv off from the world. At first they pushed ahead quickly, but then they slowed down. Finally, they stopped in the suburbs of Kyiv. They never connected up, cutting off Kyiv. Then slowly they were pushed back. Now Putin has given up even trying to capture Kyiv, even though that was supposed to be easy.

    Maybe Putin was only using his pathetic loss as a diversion. He would make himself look like a loser, and we would not realize what a great army he really had. More likely, he is a loser, with a far more pathetic army than any of us realized.
    Daniel Patrick Moynihan said it best, "You are entitled to your opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts."
    Paul Begala, "Politics is show business for ugly people."
    Stephen Colbert, "Reality has a well known liberal bias."

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    Quote Originally Posted by McRocket View Post
    I highly doubt the Russian Army was 'decisively defeated at Kyiv and forced to retreat'.
    If the American army had been stopped at the gates of Baghdad, it's forces and armoured columns decimated by the Iraqis, and then compelled to withdraw back to Kuwait to recalibrate and refocus efforts on trying to capture northern Iraq, would you have considered that a decisive battlefield win for the Iraqis??

    Yep, that's right. You would have. You would have considered it a massive defeat for the Americans.

    And it wouldn't even be open to debate.

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