Phantasmal (11-26-2022)
Most of Kherson was occupied, but not all. Putin declared he had annexed all of it, but then lost the capital of the oblast. Now he is slowly losing the rest of the oblast.
Whether he can legally annex land he occupies is one question, but he certainly cannot actually annex land he does not occupy. Dukkkha's post did not age well.
We are seeing this over and over again. Putin throws everything he can find into attacking, but then runs out of steam, and collapses. The fact is Russia is not as strong as we have been led to believe. They were not able to take Odesa, and now are stuck retreating.
Daniel Patrick Moynihan said it best, "You are entitled to your opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts."
Paul Begala, "Politics is show business for ugly people."
Stephen Colbert, "Reality has a well known liberal bias."
Phantasmal (11-26-2022)
Daniel Patrick Moynihan said it best, "You are entitled to your opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts."
Paul Begala, "Politics is show business for ugly people."
Stephen Colbert, "Reality has a well known liberal bias."
Phantasmal (11-26-2022)
I believe that Ukrainians chose to defend their nation because they wanted to defend their nation. I doubt America could push them into defending their nation. If the Ukrainians had wanted to surrender to Putin, they would have done that.
I have been to Finland. They are much weaker than Ukraine, and did not have the support of the USA when they fought the Russians. They fought because they wanted to remain independent. They lost territory, and a huge amount of their forces, but in the end remained free. When they think back on that, they are proud.
The war in Ukraine is not over yet, but most likely Ukrainians will be proud that they fought for their freedom and very lives. They will almost certainly be grateful to those that supported them.
Daniel Patrick Moynihan said it best, "You are entitled to your opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts."
Paul Begala, "Politics is show business for ugly people."
Stephen Colbert, "Reality has a well known liberal bias."
Cypress (11-26-2022), LurchAddams (11-28-2022)
With the help of Biden and NATO, Ukraine has stopped Putin's invasion dead in it's tracks and has been gradually recapturing formerly occupied territories.
Russia's great "ally" China is practically sitting on the sidelines and providing no military assistance to Putin, probably because the Chinese have no desire to back a loser.
LurchAddams (11-28-2022), Phantasmal (11-26-2022)
Russian troops were never just freely walking around Kyiv, and the Ukrainian armed forces decisively defeated Russia at the Battle of Kyiv and drove them back Into Belarus.
As to your predictions of light casualties, most western estimates are reporting 80 to 100 thousand dead or wounded Russian soldiers.
Phantasmal (11-26-2022)
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I believe the end game will be Ukraine recapturing the Crimea. It’s becoming increasingly clear that it is the main strategic prize in this war, for both sides, for whoever holds it controls the Black Sea and the entrance to the Sea of Azov. And the cherry on top is Sevastopol, the main naval port. Ukraine may then decide to hand over the Donbas, it's virtually destroyed anyway, in peace negotiations.
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Walt (11-26-2022)
Earl (11-26-2022)
Daniel Patrick Moynihan said it best, "You are entitled to your opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts."
Paul Begala, "Politics is show business for ugly people."
Stephen Colbert, "Reality has a well known liberal bias."
Cypress (11-26-2022), LurchAddams (11-28-2022)
Doc Dutch (11-26-2022), LurchAddams (11-28-2022), Walt (11-26-2022)
Daniel Patrick Moynihan said it best, "You are entitled to your opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts."
Paul Begala, "Politics is show business for ugly people."
Stephen Colbert, "Reality has a well known liberal bias."
Cypress (11-26-2022), LurchAddams (11-28-2022)
Cypress (11-26-2022)
Doc Dutch (11-26-2022)
Isaiah 6:5
“Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”
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