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    Default Russia ready for talks. Ukraine must undergo ' denazification '

    Russia ready to start talks on Ukraine
    Kremlin can dispatch a delegation representing military and civilian sections of government




    Demilitarization and “denazification” of Ukraine, as demanded by Russian President Putin, are inherent to Ukraine’s neutral status, Moscow said. The Russian government is ready to send a delegation to negotiate this, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said on Friday.

    Ukraine's President Vlolodymyr Zelensky said he is "ready to discuss the neutral status of Ukraine,” Peskov said. Peskov said. Putin had “said from the start that the goal of the military operation was helping [breakaway regions] LNR and DNR, including by demilitarizing and denazifying Ukraine. Those are essential parts of a neutral status,” he also pointed out.

    The Russian delegation would include military and civilian officials representing various branches of the government, the spokesman said.

    Belarus, a military ally of Russia, earlier said it was prepared to host peace talks between Russia and Ukraine.

    https://www.rt.com/russia/550617-res...tions-ukraine/

    I'm not sure that Ukraine will take kindly to being denazified.

    However, Putin has addressed the Ukrainian military directly and asked them to be the negotiators, bypassing ' the Nazis in Kiev ' entirely. They were installed themselves by way of a coup anyway.

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    Putin calls on Ukrainian army to overthrow government

    Russian President Vladimir Putin has urged the Ukrainian army to overthrow its leadership whom he labelled as a “gang of drug addicts and neo-Nazis who have has lodged itself in Kyiv and taken hostage the entire Ukrainian people.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/li...g-invades-kyiv
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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    Putin calls on Ukrainian army to overthrow government

    Russian President Vladimir Putin has urged the Ukrainian army to overthrow its leadership whom he labelled as a “gang of drug addicts and neo-Nazis who have has lodged itself in Kyiv and taken hostage the entire Ukrainian people.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/li...g-invades-kyiv
    Putin even talks like Trump. The difference is Putin knows what he is doing. He knows history. He is greedy and thinks of his own power, just like Trumpy does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    Putin calls on Ukrainian army to overthrow government

    Russian President Vladimir Putin has urged the Ukrainian army to overthrow its leadership whom he labelled as a “gang of drug addicts and neo-Nazis who have has lodged itself in Kyiv and taken hostage the entire Ukrainian people.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/li...g-invades-kyiv
    Speaking of Nazi's, today is the first time Kiev has been shelled and bombed since the Nazis did it in 1941.


    Putin begging the Ukranian army to overthrow their government sounds like weakness. Putin & Co. used to brag they could conquer Ukraine in two days.

    It sounds to me like Putin is a little worried about an extended conflict, and body bags heading back to Russia, and is hoping the Ukrainian military solves his problem for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Putin even talks like Trump. The difference is Putin knows what he is doing. He knows history. He is greedy and thinks of his own power, just like Trumpy does.
    Putin just asked for some security for Russia. Was it such a big ask ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Speaking of Nazi's, today is the first time Kiev has been shelled and bombed since the Nazis did it in 1941.


    Putin begging the Ukranian army to overthrow their government sounds like weakness. Putin & Co. used to brag they could conquer Ukraine in two days.

    It sounds to me like Putin is a little worried about an extended conflict, and body bags heading back to Russia, and is hoping the Ukrainian military solves his problem for him.
    It sounds to me like he's trying to avoid unnecessary bloodshed- but then I'm not a NATO stooge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    Putin just asked for some security for Russia. Was it such a big ask ?
    So the only way to get security is to invade another country?
    The same invasion that you were denying was happening even after Putin claimed it was?
    Pardoning the Bad, is injuring the Good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    It sounds to me like he's trying to avoid unnecessary bloodshed- but then I'm not a NATO stooge.
    A better way to avoid unnecessary bloodshed would be to not make an unprovoked invasion with your military.
    Pardoning the Bad, is injuring the Good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    So the only way to get security is to invade another country?
    He simply asked for Ukraine not to Join NATO

    The same invasion that you were denying was happening even after Putin claimed it was?
    No, I didn't. Now I'm going to insist that you produce proof to the opposite. Money where mouth is or stfu.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    He simply asked for Ukraine not to Join NATO
    Ukraine wasn't being asked to join NATO. There were no plans for Ukraine to join NATO. So he asked that something that wasn't happening not happen. And then since it wasn't happening he was forced to invade? Do you realize how nuts you sound?


    No, I didn't. Now I'm going to insist that you produce proof to the opposite. Money where mouth is or stfu.
    I already did. I posted the links to 6 or more media stories when you were claiming there were no credible media reports. If you bothered to read any of them you would find that some of them reported Putin as saying the military operation had begun.

    https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...93#post4968793
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    A better way to avoid unnecessary bloodshed would be to not make an unprovoked invasion with your military.
    The best way would have been for NATO to ensure Russian security. Any kid can see that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    I'm not sure that Ukraine will take kindly to being denazified.

    However, Putin has addressed the Ukrainian military directly and asked them to be the negotiators, bypassing ' the Nazis in Kiev ' entirely. They were installed themselves by way of a coup anyway.
    Leave it to Moon to accept without question that Jews are Nazis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    Ukraine wasn't being asked to join NATO. There were no plans for Ukraine to join NATO. So he asked that something that wasn't happening not happen. And then since it wasn't happening he was forced to invade? Do you realize how nuts you sound?
    I don't know what you suffer from- but it's not IQ heights. Ukraine was DEMANDING to join NATO, dumbass.

    I already did. I posted the links to 6 or more media stories when you were claiming there were no credible media reports. If you bothered to read any of them you would find that some of them reported Putin as saying the military operation had begun.

    https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...93#post4968793
    Other sources were reporting the opposite. You lied.
    Others were ambiguous. You lied. ' Putin orders troops to Eastern Ukraine' does not signal an invasion has begun. The Donbass isn't even Ukrainian. You lied.
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    I have heard that Ukraine does have a Nazi problem
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