Cawacko re: Supreme Court

[Darla]

Cawacko, would love to respond to your thoughts, but I'm not going on that thread, for reasons obvious to anyone who sees the title.

I agree with you, in part. Certainly it was black voters who gave Biden the nomination. It was a fascinating primary. Full disclosure, I supported Kamala in the primary and I wanted a Harris/O'Rourke tickets. Biden was down on my list, trust me. A lot of primary voters were waiting to see who the "anybody but Bernie" votes trended towards. I remember the Klobuchar voters standing around one of the caucuses, she didn't have enough, so they were waiting to see who had the best numbers against Bernie. I love Amy btw! Man, when I heard that comb story,. I was like, yeah! People who bitched about it never had people working for them. Since I was promoted to assistant to the assistant manager at Costco last year, after 10 years of being a cashier, I have. Most people are idiots! I say, comb them!

Anyway, I knew it wouldn't be Amy or Liz, or anyone without big black support. At some point, it became obvious that the anyone but Bernie (which is by far the majority of the dem base) was going to go to Biden, and then of course, we hit the South and Clyburn said it's gonna be Joe. That was a big boon to Biden, but I personally think the black vote was trending towards him anyway, especially with Kamala dropping out.

But I also think it's important to note that black women specifically, are the Democrats most reliable voters. They vote. In addition, they do a lot of the field work. The knocking on doors, and etc.

They are owed by the Democratic party. They should have someone who looks like them in the VP seat, and in the Supreme Court seat. They, unlike many of the sneering idiots here,. are well aware of the many qualified black women in this country, so they know that 'the best person for the job" can absolutely be found among their demographic.

But that's just politics. I think that any President while choosing a nominee, doesn't ask for "the best person" because no such person exists who can be universally agreed upon as "the best" even among those vetting them and don't have a "white male" agenda. They always ask, "who's going to make the biggest part of my base happy".

That's been going on forever. Black women finally said, hey, we're the most dedicated, loyal part of your base, where's ours? And they were right to do so.

Just my two cents.

[Darla]

Now I have to run out and get stuff in preparation for this Nor'easter. I will see you later!

[Truth Detector]

Blacks represent about 12% of the electorate. They typically vote for Democrats. Black votes dropped in 2020 from 2016.

Black voting did not hand the election to Biden. Fraudulent mail in ballots did.

[BartenderElite]

Blacks represent about 12% of the electorate. They typically vote for Democrats. Black votes dropped in 2020 from 2016.

Black voting did not hand the election to Biden. Fraudulent mail in ballots did.

Are you cawacko?

Quick trivia: did you know that Trump also declared "massive fraud" in 2016, when there was no additional mail-in due to COVID? Oh, and guess what? He also said 2012 was a "sham."

You believe that there was fraud because a pathological liar told you to. Congrats.

[cawacko]

Cawacko, would love to respond to your thoughts, but I'm not going on that thread, for reasons obvious to anyone who sees the title.

I agree with you, in part. Certainly it was black voters who gave Biden the nomination. It was a fascinating primary. Full disclosure, I supported Kamala in the primary and I wanted a Harris/O'Rourke tickets. Biden was down on my list, trust me. A lot of primary voters were waiting to see who the "anybody but Bernie" votes trended towards. I remember the Klobuchar voters standing around one of the caucuses, she didn't have enough, so they were waiting to see who had the best numbers against Bernie. I love Amy btw! Man, when I heard that comb story,. I was like, yeah! People who bitched about it never had people working for them. Since I was promoted to assistant to the assistant manager at Costco last year, after 10 years of being a cashier, I have. Most people are idiots! I say, comb them!

Anyway, I knew it wouldn't be Amy or Liz, or anyone without big black support. At some point, it became obvious that the anyone but Bernie (which is by far the majority of the dem base) was going to go to Biden, and then of course, we hit the South and Clyburn said it's gonna be Joe. That was a big boon to Biden, but I personally think the black vote was trending towards him anyway, especially with Kamala dropping out.

But I also think it's important to note that black women specifically, are the Democrats most reliable voters. They vote. In addition, they do a lot of the field work. The knocking on doors, and etc.

They are owed by the Democratic party. They should have someone who looks like them in the VP seat, and in the Supreme Court seat. They, unlike many of the sneering idiots here,. are well aware of the many qualified black women in this country, so they know that 'the best person for the job" can absolutely be found among their demographic.

But that's just politics. I think that any President while choosing a nominee, doesn't ask for "the best person" because no such person exists who can be universally agreed upon as "the best" even among those vetting them and don't have a "white male" agenda. They always ask, "who's going to make the biggest part of my base happy".

That's been going on forever. Black women finally said, hey, we're the most dedicated, loyal part of your base, where's ours? And they were right to do so.

Just my two cents.

I responded in a couple of different threads but I think we are saying the same thing. As you stated, black women are the most loyal Democratic voters and it was Clyburn who basically saved Biden's campaign and one of the promises Biden made to him was to appoint a black woman to the Supreme Court. That's why I said his numbers would really tank if he didn't because that would likely really piss them off. But it seems pretty clear he's going to appoint a black woman and politically it's the smart thing to do.

I don't read blogs on judges, I'm sure in D.C. legal circles the chattering class can identify those who they think have the most potential to be future S.C. appointments. And I'm sure conservative and liberal groups track who the brightest judges are. But there's no metric that says this particular individual is the most qualified that I'm aware of.

[Jack]

I responded in a couple of different threads but I think we are saying the same thing. As you stated, black women are the most loyal Democratic voters and it was Clyburn who basically saved Biden's campaign and one of the promises Biden made to him was to appoint a black woman to the Supreme Court. That's why I said his numbers would really tank if he didn't because that would likely really piss them off. But it seems pretty clear he's going to appoint a black woman and politically it's the smart thing to do.

I don't read blogs on judges, I'm sure in D.C. legal circles the chattering class can identify those who they think have the most potential to be future S.C. appointments. And I'm sure conservative and liberal groups track who the brightest judges are. But there's no metric that says this particular individual is the most qualified that I'm aware of.

Trump tossed his base 3 appointments to the Supreme Court, Biden has to do the same thing since Clyburn anoited him to Souther Blacks, making sure Bernie wouldn't get their Vote.


And stepping back, looking at it in a rational way (rather than political), a Black woman might make up for that obvious Token Negro, Clarence Thomas.

[Jack]

Blacks represent about 12% of the electorate. They typically vote for Democrats. Black votes dropped in 2020 from 2016.

Black voting did not hand the election to Biden. Fraudulent mail in ballots did.

You. Are. An. Idiot!

[Sailor]

Now I have to run out and get stuff in preparation for this Nor'easter. I will see you later!

It is going to be a puff of wind and a little snow. Bout the equivalent of hen fart in a hurricane. You must be one of those wannabe New Engladahs...

[Trumpet]

It is going to be a puff of wind and a little snow. Bout the equivalent of hen fart in a hurricane. You must be one of those wannabe New Engladahs...

Poopeye the fish cleaner.

[Darla]

I responded in a couple of different threads but I think we are saying the same thing. As you stated, black women are the most loyal Democratic voters and it was Clyburn who basically saved Biden's campaign and one of the promises Biden made to him was to appoint a black woman to the Supreme Court. That's why I said his numbers would really tank if he didn't because that would likely really piss them off. But it seems pretty clear he's going to appoint a black woman and politically it's the smart thing to do.

I don't read blogs on judges, I'm sure in D.C. legal circles the chattering class can identify those who they think have the most potential to be future S.C. appointments. And I'm sure conservative and liberal groups track who the brightest judges are. But there's no metric that says this particular individual is the most qualified that I'm aware of.

Yep, we agree. That's why I can't stand this round and round about "just pick the most qualified candidate".

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Yep, we agree. That's why I can't stand this round and round about "just pick the most qualified candidate".

Qualifications are important, even with political appointees, question becomes how political do you want to extend. What makes is scary in recent times is that with just a simple majority vote needed, any President only has to nominate someone who appeals to their political base and basically, nothing else. Before, I think qualifications did play a more important role having to secure a sixty vote threshold. Don't believe that Mitch set the precedent cause he was worried about a nominees qualifications

[cawacko]

Yep, we agree. That's why I can't stand this round and round about "just pick the most qualified candidate".

Experience alone doesn’t necessarily make someone better but no President wants to appoint someone who is 70 years old to the SC even if they may be “the most qualified”. It’s ageism but it’s reality. Basically they want to appoint close to the youngest person they can who is deemed acceptable.

[Darla]

Qualifications are important, even with political appointees, question becomes how political do you want to extend. What makes is scary in recent times is that with just a simple majority vote needed, any President only has to nominate someone who appeals to their political base and basically, nothing else. Before, I think qualifications did play a more important role having to secure a sixty vote threshold. Don't believe that Mitch set the precedent cause he was worried about a nominees qualifications

I definitely agree, but the people under consideration are usually chosen from a certain level of already highly qualified folks. At among that rarified group, IMO, there can really be no consensus on who the best qualified is.

[Darla]

Experience alone doesn’t necessarily make someone better but no President wants to appoint someone who is 70 years old to the SC even if they may be “the most qualified”. It’s ageism but it’s reality. Basically they want to appoint close to the youngest person they can who is deemed acceptable.

Yep, age plays a big role.

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I definitely agree, but the people under consideration are usually chosen from a certain level of already highly qualified folks. At among that rarified group, IMO, there can really be no consensus on who the best qualified is.

Not sure on that one, Kavanagh came right off of the Heritage's list, under the preMitch requirements, doubtful he would have ever made it, Barrett is also questionable given her unbending staunch conservative history

And there is never going to be the "best qualified candidate," but you used to think even with the influence of politics, it was the better nominee