Our Covid Debate

[Into the Night]

Disagree. This is a facts/conspiracy theories forum. There can be no intelligent discussion without an agreed upon framework of what is true. Dutch Uncle, anonymoose, cawacko are not in any way, shape or form part of the blue team. They are however part of the 'team' that accepts reality. They can be reasoned with and you can have intelligent discussions with them. The rest? Not so much.

Buzzword fallacy. Learn with 'fact' means. The Democrat party is a conspiracy. It is not possible to have intelligent discussions with fundamentalists. The Church of Covid is inherently a fundamentalist religion.

[Into the Night]

Every once in a while I try to start a thread on an economic topic, but they immediately devolve into false partisan talking points. I have not encountered a member of the 'red team' that has even a basic understanding of the Fed, the 2008 financial crisis, inflation, CPI, unemployment numbers, interest rates and tax policy. They simply read some garbage on a right wing site and post it like a parrot. If you challenge them on a single point, they retreat to the corner and start slinging mud. It is what it is. I'm here find out what people actually believe. The trolling is just a bonus.

You are describing yourself. Inversion fallacy.

[Into the Night]

My view:

This is a widespread disease. It has a death rate outside select groups on the order of a bad case of the flu.

The select groups, common to many other similar diseases, are:
The elderly
Those with preexisting serious medical conditions
Certain groups and individuals who have genetic predisposition to getting a more serious case.

Outside that, you aren't likely to die from this.
Masks, as being used, are worthless.
The vaccines are proving marginally effective at best, so you decide if you want one.

The weak and stupid are the ones most likely to die.

The 'select groups' you mentioned are susceptible to death via pretty much any respiratory virus such as the common cold or flu.
It's their weak systems and the pneumonia they can get from these viruses that kills them.

Masks are completely ineffective against a virus. You are right about this. Mandating them causes paradox M.
Mandating vaccines causes paradox V.

Death by cancer, pneumonia, car accident, falling off a ladder, etc. are all listed as 'Covid death'.

[Into the Night]

I got 2 Shots and a Booster. I feel pretty protected.

Enjoy your addiction.

If others want to 'roll the dice' on this, that's THEIR decision. It won't affect me.

Correct.

Now, 2 years ago, I could see why their was large panic over this. Today, with 60% vaccinated and others that may have natural immunity (and the rest dead), I can see a more relaxed approach.

Covid19 does not kill.

[Into the Night]

Since you want biowar, you want war. Be prepared to pay for the consequences of starting such a war. It is obvious that destruction is your idea of constructive.

[Lionfish]

DeSantis goes after Fauci in new campaign ad

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Preparing for the grownup world in college, when you debate you debate real ideas and real issues with peers. Inside the grown up world of this forum you debate fools, unless you’re one of them, who argue such things as Covid science is a political creed of the Democratic National Party. It’s not only Covid. There’s a mindset, mainly on the Right, that tends to put everything through a prism of politics. Disappointing, to say the least.

I've never seen you have a grown-up debate. I'm not sure you even have a point here. Did you vote for Biden in the last election?

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This is a 'Red Team/Blue Team' forum. 'Ideas' and 'Issues' aren't discussed. 'Talking Points' are hurled at each other. Basically a place to vent your frustrations.

False narratives and lie filled talking points are all the Democrats have. Name one the Republicans use.

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My view on COVID.

COVID is a pandemic Virus.
The Government is providing a FREE Vaccine that will keep 90% of people out of the Hospital/Morgue.
You can take the Vaccine or you don't have to. Leaving 'nature' to decide your Future.

I see this as a 'gene pool cleansing' event. The Weak/Stupid will die.

These are not vaccines. They are shots. They are ineffective shots. They don't "prevent" the virus from infecting its host and they don't "prevent" those with the shots from spreading the virus.

Without the shots, 99.84% of those infected recovered completely. Hardly the "deadly" disease the PHONY media and Government apparatchiks pontificate about.

Shutting down and destroying millions of businesses and ruining lives did not stop the virus. Shots did not stop the virus. Mandatory masking did not stop the virus. Travel bans did not stop the virus. Closing schools did not stop the virus. These are just FACTS.

What we do know is that comorbidities like obesity, diabetes and old age are risk factors which is the case for mundane virus like the cold and the flu.

If you keep doing what you have done for two years expecting different results, you just might be a moron. Yes, Dr. Fraudchi is the biggest moron and most dishonest health official hack on the planet.

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Trump supporters shouldn't get vaccinated!

You shouldn't be allowed out of your padded cell.

dumbass
noun
dumb·ass | \ ˈdəm-ˌas \

: a foolish or stupid person : IDIOT

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That seems to be the Reality.
Now, rubbing chin, what if Democrats had Trucks disguised as 'Plumbing trucks' or 'Carpet Cleaning trucks', or 'Pizza*Delivery trucks', ... but were really rigged up as 'COVID spray trucks'? You know, had a large tank of COVID inside the truck with spray nozzles aimed outward. They could drive around the Republican precincts and the Operator could 'Bzzzz' ... Bzzzz' at the Grocery Stores, Shopping Malls, and Churches.

Socks. Am I the only one doing any constructive thinking on this?

mental case
noun
: a crazy person
That guy is a complete mental case.

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Disagree. This is a facts/conspiracy theories forum. There can be no intelligent discussion without an agreed upon framework of what is true. Dutch Uncle, anonymoose, cawacko are not in any way, shape or form part of the blue team. They are however part of the 'team' that accepts reality. They can be reasoned with and you can have intelligent discussions with them. The rest? Not so much.

I R O N Y!!

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Every once in a while I try to start a thread on an economic topic, but they immediately devolve into false partisan talking points. I have not encountered a member of the 'red team' that has even a basic understanding of the Fed, the 2008 financial crisis, inflation, CPI, unemployment numbers, interest rates and tax policy. They simply read some garbage on a right wing site and post it like a parrot. If you challenge them on a single point, they retreat to the corner and start slinging mud. It is what it is. I'm here find out what people actually believe. The trolling is just a bonus.

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I got 2 Shots and a Booster. I feel pretty protected. If others want to 'roll the dice' on this, that's THEIR decision. It won't affect me.

Wrong. There have been numerous high visibility politicians who had the same and still got infected. You've always been safe. 99.84% of those infected fully recover.

I am vaccinated yet still got infected. Mild cold symptoms. My son was infected, vaccinated and then infected again. So spare us the lack of science and facts in your anecdotal BS.

[AProudLefty]

I've never seen you have a grown-up debate. I'm not sure you even have a point here. Did you vote for Biden in the last election?

^Case in point