China vs Fight Club

[Doc Dutch]

A big clue as to whether a government is oppressive and/or authoritarian is when they ban things or dictate what citizens can watch or read.

China has censored and altered the ending of the movie "Fight Club" into a pro-government ending along with other mandatory edits.

How soon before authoritarians in the US start pushing harder to mandate their views for movies they don't like?


https://thehill.com/changing-america...hina-confusing
New 'Fight Club' ending is released in China, confusing fans
Cutting scenes from films or television series considered “violent” or “pornographic” is standard practice in China.

At the end of the original movie, Brad Pitt’s Tyler Durden is killed by Edward Norton’s character the Narrator, who then watches the buildings around him crumble to the ground at the hands of several explosions.

However, in a newly released cut of the film available on the Chinese video streaming service Tencent Video, the Narrator is killed and the explosions are replaced with a black screen and English text reading: “Through the clue provided by Tyler, the police rapidly figured out the whole plan and arrested all criminals, successfully preventing the bomb from exploding.”

It adds that Tyler – a figment of the Narrator’s imagination – was sent to a “lunatic asylum” following a trial, where he received psychological treatment before being discharged in 2012.

[Walt]

There is a movement in China called Tang Ping(lying down). It is prominent among people in their 20's, and they refuse to work any harder than they absolutely need to survive. They have given up on the Chinese model of growth, and honestly on trying to impress one of the limited number of young women in China. They take their name from the way plants survive the farmer's sickle: by lying down.

It is not quite the philosophy of Fight Club, but it definitely is close. The Chinese Government is in an absolute moral panic over this cultural movement. The fear is China will lose its crazy growth because of them.

[evince]

Freedom

Without it mankind slowly dies

[Doc Dutch]

There is a movement in China called Tang Ping(lying down). It is prominent among people in their 20's, and they refuse to work any harder than they absolutely need to survive. They have given up on the Chinese model of growth, and honestly on trying to impress one of the limited number of young women in China. They take their name from the way plants survive the farmer's sickle: by lying down.

It is not quite the philosophy of Fight Club, but it definitely is close. The Chinese Government is in an absolute moral panic over this cultural movement. The fear is China will lose its crazy growth because of them.

One of my favorite movies is "Office Space" because it put out all the negative themes of various systems and relations between employers and employees. A quote that applies to "lying down":

Peter Gibbons : The thing is, Bob, it's not that I'm lazy, it's that I just don't care.

Bob Porter : Don't... don't care?

Peter Gibbons : It's a problem of motivation, all right? Now if I work my ass off and Initech ships a few extra units, I don't see another dime, so where's the motivation? And here's something else, Bob: I have eight different bosses right now.

Bob Slydell : I beg your pardon?

Peter Gibbons : Eight bosses.

Bob Slydell : Eight?

Peter Gibbons : Eight, Bob. So that means that when I make a mistake, I have eight different people coming by to tell me about it. That's my only real motivation is not to be hassled, that and the fear of losing my job. But you know, Bob, that will only make someone work just hard enough not to get fired.

[Doc Dutch]

Freedom

Without it mankind slowly dies

Agreed, which is why I'm always against those oppressive assholes seeking to limit my freedom.

[evince]

The freedom to think freely



Without it man flounders

[Walt]

One of my favorite movies is "Office Space" because it put out all the negative themes of various systems and relations between employers and employees. A quote that applies to "lying down":

Peter Gibbons : The thing is, Bob, it's not that I'm lazy, it's that I just don't care.

Bob Porter : Don't... don't care?

Peter Gibbons : It's a problem of motivation, all right? Now if I work my ass off and Initech ships a few extra units, I don't see another dime, so where's the motivation? And here's something else, Bob: I have eight different bosses right now.

Bob Slydell : I beg your pardon?

Peter Gibbons : Eight bosses.

Bob Slydell : Eight?

Peter Gibbons : Eight, Bob. So that means that when I make a mistake, I have eight different people coming by to tell me about it. That's my only real motivation is not to be hassled, that and the fear of losing my job. But you know, Bob, that will only make someone work just hard enough not to get fired.

I love that movie. I once had about 12 bosses, though it was hard to put an actual number to it. If you spend an hour with each of them every day, you are accomplishing nothing, and working a 12 hour day doing it.

[Jack]

I love that movie. I once had about 12 bosses, though it was hard to put an actual number to it. If you spend an hour with each of them every day, you are accomplishing nothing, and working a 12 hour day doing it.

Try finding a Job you like to do. Fuck the 'Bosses'.

[Walt]

Try finding a Job you like to do. Fuck the 'Bosses'.

I literally ceased answer the phone for 3 months. I would not respond to work emails, though in the early 90's that was less of a thing. I went completely silent at meetings, neither speaking nor listening. They still would not fire me. Finally, I just quit. It was the only time I quit without having a new job, though I did once refuse to reapply without having a new job, which is sort of like quitting. It all worked out fine, but it was bad when it was happening.

[Doc Dutch]

I literally ceased answer the phone for 3 months. I would not respond to work emails, though in the early 90's that was less of a thing. I went completely silent at meetings, neither speaking nor listening. They still would not fire me. Finally, I just quit. It was the only time I quit without having a new job, though I did once refuse to reapply without having a new job, which is sort of like quitting. It all worked out fine, but it was bad when it was happening.

Adversity builds character.

[Jack]

I literally ceased answer the phone for 3 months. I would not respond to work emails, though in the early 90's that was less of a thing. I went completely silent at meetings, neither speaking nor listening. They still would not fire me. Finally, I just quit. It was the only time I quit without having a new job, though I did once refuse to reapply without having a new job, which is sort of like quitting. It all worked out fine, but it was bad when it was happening.

Sounds like 8 hours of your life were miserable. Definitely time to move on.

[Doc Dutch]

Try finding a Job you like to do. Fuck the 'Bosses'.

There are good bosses and bad just like good leaders and bad. The Chinese are headed for a major problem in their country. When it happens, it should be interesting. I doubt they want another Tiananmen Square although mass murders of people in the wilds of west China still happen.

Good companies with a good Labor-Management relationship are rare in the US. Bosses are chosen for cracking the whip, not being benevolent leaders.

OTOH, as fucked up as my management was and no matter how shitty the bosses, the job was fun and I had both government regulations and a union to back me against management pressures to do illegal or unsafe actions.

[Walt]

There are good bosses and bad just like good leaders and bad. The Chinese are headed for a major problem in their country. When it happens, it should be interesting. I doubt they want another Tiananmen Square although mass murders of people in the wilds of west China still happen.

Good companies with a good Labor-Management relationship are rare in the US. Bosses are chosen for cracking the whip, not being benevolent leaders.

OTOH, as fucked up as my management was and no matter how shitty the bosses, the job was fun and I had both government regulations and a union to back me against management pressures to do illegal or unsafe actions.

The Chinese Government wants to micromanage their tech companies. They were making breakthroughs in tech companies, and were about to challenge us, but now their tech entrepreneurs are too scared to innovate. They are literally destroying their own future.

[Doc Dutch]

The Chinese Government wants to micromanage their tech companies. They were making breakthroughs in tech companies, and were about to challenge us, but now their tech entrepreneurs are too scared to innovate. They are literally destroying their own future.

Agreed.

This was predicted by Fareed Zakaria in his 2008 The Post-American World. In the end, I think democracy will win but there may be a lot of dead Chinese before that comes about.

[Geeko Sportivo]

I sure hope they don't fuck with their Mongolian Beef recipe!

I like it just the way it is- even though very few restaurants know how to make it properly!