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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Why are right wingers obsessed with Marxism? Most leftists/liberals don't refer to Marxism for their political views.
    Then what source(s) do you turn to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by goat View Post
    The fed handed out $16 trillion in the last 2 years. $14 trillion of that welfare went straight to the largest, most profitable, multinational corporations, while we the people got a lousy $2000. Wall Street is on the verge of collapse, again. That's where all the socialism is going.
    This is just changing the question with whataboutism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Then what source(s) do you turn to?
    Everything. You missed my point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Everything. You missed my point.
    You stated: "Most leftists/liberals don't refer to Marxism for their political views."

    So, what sources do you refer to for your political views? Or, are you the exception to that and do refer to Marxism?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    a social credit system?

    we need capitalism without fiat currency and less corruption.

    fiat currency needs to end.

    it is totalitarianism.
    Worker cooperatives and federations are making an impact. USFWC, CICOPA, NCBA, COOP, NAFCU, NRECA are the future. The Mondragon Corporation doesn't suffer from the recessions/depressions like the rest of western economies. Capitalism is in direct conflict with democracy. It's time to evolve as a society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    You stated: "Most leftists/liberals don't refer to Marxism for their political views."

    So, what sources do you refer to for your political views? Or, are you the exception to that and do refer to Marxism?
    Ok, the political theory of Plato, Aristotle, Locke, Machiavelli, Mill, Hegel, US Constitution, Rawls. Others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    This is just changing the question with whataboutism.
    Capitalism is bankrupt, again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Ok, the political theory of Plato, Aristotle, Locke, Machiavelli, Mill, Hegel, US Constitution, Rawls. Others.
    machiavellianism is evil you know.

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    we just need the way it was before globalization zealotry, and befoere allowing human slavery onto the international market by trading with communist slavers.

    you actually can put toothpaste back in a tube.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goat View Post
    Worker cooperatives and federations are making an impact. USFWC, CICOPA, NCBA, COOP, NAFCU, NRECA are the future. The Mondragon Corporation doesn't suffer from the recessions/depressions like the rest of western economies. Capitalism is in direct conflict with democracy. It's time to evolve as a society.
    im not sure what you mean.

    we just need to cut nations that enslave people out of trade.

    sanctions instead of favored nation status.

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    reject technocracy and utilitarianism.

    king kong ain't got shit on me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goat View Post
    Capital is possibly the most difficult read there is but the first volume should be mandatory in every high school. It explains why we the people deserve something better than capitalism. Young folk have already figured that out because they don't have the same opportunities as we did.
    Even capitalism has to have some regulations or you end up with people like Bezos and Bozos!


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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    im not sure what you mean.

    we just need to cut nations that enslave people out of trade.

    sanctions instead of favored nation status.
    slavery evolved into feudalism
    feudalism evolved into capitalism
    capitalism devolved into imperialism

    When a system refuses to evolve it dies. We're witnessing the death of capitalism. There are protests going on all over the world and the capitalist solution is lockdowns and militarized police. Marx told us that we deserve better and young folk are demanding change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Ok, the political theory of Plato, Aristotle, Locke, Machiavelli, Mill, Hegel, US Constitution, Rawls. Others.
    I don't know why the US Constitution is in that list as it is diametrically opposed to the rest of it.

    Boiled down, it appears you have a Leftist view of politics. That is, you espouse that a Dictatorship of Virtue with a Statist Capitalist or purely Socialist economy as the goal of a nation.

    Defined, that would be a strong central government headed by a supposedly benevolent oligarchy, with a monarch or dictator at its head, where democracy has a limited role. Private property would be limited but allowed, and the state controls most aspects of life. The objective of this government would be hedonistic to a good degree. That is, the object of a citizen's life is to contribute what they want to society while being able to exist comfortably and happily within it so long as they bow to the state.

    Sounds horrible, a lot like China but not quite as virulent a dictatorship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    I don't know why the US Constitution is in that list as it is diametrically opposed to the rest of it.

    Boiled down, it appears you have a Leftist view of politics. That is, you espouse that a Dictatorship of Virtue with a Statist Capitalist or purely Socialist economy as the goal of a nation.

    Defined, that would be a strong central government headed by a supposedly benevolent oligarchy, with a monarch or dictator at its head, where democracy has a limited role. Private property would be limited but allowed, and the state controls most aspects of life. The objective of this government would be hedonistic to a good degree. That is, the object of a citizen's life is to contribute what they want to society while being able to exist comfortably and happily within it so long as they bow to the state.

    Sounds horrible, a lot like China but not quite as virulent a dictatorship.
    you're dumb. not worth it

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