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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    You only have rights if you have a government willing to uphold them.
    incorrect. we have our rights. we can only retain them if we the people are willing to fight for them. our government has not only consistently failed to uphold and protect them, they've gone out of their way to negate them by brainwashing everyone in to believing that no right is absolute.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    I would say yes, but no measures stop all deaths, just like armed citizens can’t stop all crimes.
    amazingly, neither do armed government agents..............but you want to force defenselessness on citizens and not government
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    No, it’s just being realistic, you can run around thinking your rights come from the Creator, until a group of armed persons show up at your door and take you away.
    but you approve of that kind of rights denial, don't you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    At times they do, do you actually believe people who own guns stop all crime?
    do you actually believe that government agents stop all crime?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    I don’t believe owning a gun is necessary for safety. I have never owned a gun to protect myself.
    when a crime is occurring or has happened, who do you call? someone with a GUN!!!!!!!!!!! so your beliefs appear to be very misguided and naive
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    How is this even about the rich? Get your empty head out of your asshole.
    what part of his premise about fees and taxes against rights favor the rich are you not understanding?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grokmaster View Post
    There is no CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO HAVE A CAR, OR TO DRIVE.
    there is, and there is, it's just being denied with the approval of apathetic idiots
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    I don't recall anyone ever giving away free guns to the poor, do you? If you're poor and want a gun, you can expect to pay for it, and its ammo too. Consider the insurance just a price hike.
    so you approve of making it impossible for poor people to exercise their rights. got it
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Sorry, but guns are not an unalienable human right. They're merely something granted in the Constitution's 2nd amendment, which can be changed at any time.
    right to arms is not GRANTED in the 2nd Amendment. the 2nd denies the federal government any power over them
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    No, it's not.
    every founding father considered the right of self preservation a natural and unalienable right. are you smarter than they were?
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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    It may be, but having to have a gun to do such isn't
    go ask a cop if he/she should be denied their right to defend themselves against a raging ax murderer armed with a knife
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    what part of his premise about fees and taxes against rights favor the rich are you not understanding?
    Run along anarchist. Life's too short for our special brand of ignorant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    What "right," oh, the Government's Constitutional authority to legislate gun regulation for starters, and of course you have yours, you are scared stiff some kid wearing a hoodie is going to walk down your street some day
    the government has no authority to do that. just because YOU approve of it, doesn't make it legal.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    It is? Where? And even if it did, where does it say that right can't be regulated?

    You are interpreting the Second Amendment the way you want it to read
    no, YOU are interpreting the Constitution the way YOU want it to be read
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    It was regulated as are most things in a civil society.
    wrong. It is the absolute height of stupidity to believe that the people who had just fought and won their war for independence against a government that tried to confiscate/regulate their arms would grant their new central government that same power.............
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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