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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    Funny that trump would't be caught dead on a Sunday in one of those fundy churches
    Trump is America's first atheist president, and he privately holds holy rollers in utter contempt.

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    No REAL Christian would ever vote for trump.

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    It helped that Trump seemed to feel a kinship with prosperity preachers—often evincing a game-recognizes-game appreciation for their hustle. The former campaign adviser recalled showing his boss a YouTube video of the Israeli televangelist Benny Hinn performing “faith healings,” while Trump laughed at the spectacle and muttered, “Man, that’s some racket.” On another occasion, the adviser told me, Trump expressed awe at Joel Osteen’s media empire—particularly the viewership of his televised sermons.

    In Cohen’s recent memoir, Disloyal, he recounts Trump returning from his 2011 meeting with the pastors who laid hands on him and sneering, “Can you believe that bullshit?” But if Trump found their rituals ridiculous, he followed their moneymaking ventures closely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    The backlash against rightwing evangelicals is reshaping American politics and faith

    Some sociologists believe that the rising number of non-religious Americans is a reaction against rightwing evangelicals. But that’s just part of the story.

    ...rising numbers of people who are religiously unaffiliated (“nones”) or identify as “spiritual but not religious”; a spike in positive attention to the “religious left”; the depoliticization of liberal religion; and the purification and radicalization of the religious right? As a sociologist who has studied American religion and politics for many years, I have often struggled to make sense of these dramatic but seemingly disconnected changes. I now believe they all can all be explained, at least in part, as products of a backlash to the religious right.


    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...tics-and-faith
    With the alt right, there has been an odd trend. They claim to be Christian, but only when it comes to religious violence. They are not Christian as far as being a member in a church, or doing any good for the community. They are very socially isolated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Holy smoke, Conservatives really do think Trump is their Messiah

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Trump is America's first atheist president, and he privately holds holy rollers in utter contempt.
    I'd be willing to bet there have been others, going further back than you'd think. None of them, not even Trump, had the balls to admit it though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    When He looks into your heart, Jesus weeps.

    You are one of THE worst examples of Christianity on this forum, along with PiMP and Sister Stench. You are an anti-prophet, making ppl run from your god instead of coming to Him.
    I doubt you'll find too many true-to-heart Christians here and on most political chats for the simple reason they are more politicized than religious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Seeing all the self-appointed moralist rightwing christians on this board drop to their knees and worship the sleazebag Donald Trump is part of that backlash
    Not a single one I've seen acts like a Christian. Some the exact opposite of Christians. e.g. PmP.

    I've seen no Christians with television shows either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    “The time is fulfilled for the German people of Hitler. It is because of Hitler that Christ, God the helper and redeemer, has become effective among us. … Hitler is the way of the Spirit and the will of God for the German people to enter the Church of Christ." So spoke German pastor Hermann Gruner. Another pastor put it more succinctly: "Christ has come to us through Adolph Hitler."

    It isn’t the first time religious nuts got it wrong.

    https://www.christianitytoday.com/hi...onhoeffer.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jade Dragon View Post
    I doubt you'll find too many true-to-heart Christians here and on most political chats for the simple reason they are more politicized than religious.
    Although I tend to agree, I also think that you'll identify "true-to-heart Christians here" by their heart and by what they never say, not always by what they say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Badguy View Post
    I'd be willing to bet there have been others, going further back than you'd think. None of them, not even Trump, had the balls to admit it though.
    I believe Grant was an atheist. He was a very strong proponent of the separation of church and state.
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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    It helped that Trump seemed to feel a kinship with prosperity preachers—often evincing a game-recognizes-game appreciation for their hustle. The former campaign adviser recalled showing his boss a YouTube video of the Israeli televangelist Benny Hinn performing “faith healings,” while Trump laughed at the spectacle and muttered, “Man, that’s some racket.” On another occasion, the adviser told me, Trump expressed awe at Joel Osteen’s media empire—particularly the viewership of his televised sermons.

    In Cohen’s recent memoir, Disloyal, he recounts Trump returning from his 2011 meeting with the pastors who laid hands on him and sneering, “Can you believe that bullshit?” But if Trump found their rituals ridiculous, he followed their moneymaking ventures closely.
    Agreed. Trump worships money and sees Christianity as a means to an end. His pick of a "Prosperity Christian" as the White House spiritual advisor is proof of this fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Badguy View Post
    I'd be willing to bet there have been others, going further back than you'd think. None of them, not even Trump, had the balls to admit it though.
    Sure. OTOH, there were other beliefs than Evangelism too. Jefferson and Franklin were Deists who don't believe that God interferes in human affairs ergo prayer won't work.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religi..._United_States

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    Hello Cypress,

    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    The gold-gilded Idol of Trump your conservative boyfriends rolled out at the CPAC conference says otherwise.

    And wearing the American flag as attire. How disrespectful:

    US Flag Code:

    "The flag should not be used as "wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery", or for covering a speaker's desk, draping a platform, or for any decoration in general (exception for coffins). "

    "The flag should never be used for any advertising purpose. It should not be embroidered, printed, or otherwise impressed on such articles as cushions, handkerchiefs, napkins, boxes, or anything intended to be discarded after temporary use. Advertising signs should not be attached to the staff or halyard."

    "The flag should not be used as part of a costume or athletic uniform, except that a flag patch may be used on the uniform of military personnel, firefighters, police officers, and members of patriotic organizations."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jade Dragon View Post
    I doubt you'll find too many true-to-heart Christians here and on most political chats for the simple reason they are more politicized than religious.
    Good point. I do believe you are right.
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