Sarah Palin set to battle New York Times at defamation trial

[BidenPresident]

It has been 58 years since the U.S. Supreme Court adopted the "actual malice" standard in the landmark decision called New York Times v. Sullivan, which made it difficult for public figures to win libel lawsuits.

Don Herzog, a University of Michigan law professor, said Palin would have trouble showing that the Times "subjectively doubted or disbelieved" the truth of what it presented as fact.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/sar...al-2022-01-23/

[Minister of Truth]

The Times knows when its lying, just like it knows when it's having its morning coffee, afternoon martini, and evening cocktail. Daily occurrences are hard to mistake.

[Jarod]

The Times knows when its lying, just like it knows when it's having its morning coffee, afternoon martini, and evening cocktail. Daily occurrences are hard to mistake.

This is very interesting to me, from my understanding, from the little bit I’ve read about the case, The evidence is that the New York Times made a mistake, and retracted it as soon as they were made aware of it. The law is that a simple mistake is not actionable, Sarah Palin must prove malice on the part of the New York Times, and I think that is going to be a very difficult burden for her based on these facts

[BidenPresident]

This is very interesting to me, from my understanding, from the little bit I’ve read about the case, The evidence is that the New York Times made a mistake, and retracted it as soon as they were made aware of it. The law is that a simple mistake is not actionable, Sarah Palin must prove malice on the part of the New York Times, and I think that is going to be a very difficult burden for her based on these facts

Palin has to prove any harm was intentional. Let alone that she was harmed.

[Jarod]

Palin has to prove any harm was intentional. Let alone that she was harmed.

Yes, I think she loses. I don’t think she cares, this is being paid for by outside groups, and her whole point is that the New York Times sometimes makes mistakes. I already knew that.

[BidenPresident]

Yes, I think she loses. I don’t think she cares, this is being paid for by outside groups, and her whole point is that the New York Times sometimes makes mistakes. I already knew that.

What mistake are you claiming the NYTimes made?

[BidenPresident]

Yes, I think she loses. I don’t think she cares, this is being paid for by outside groups, and her whole point is that the New York Times sometimes makes mistakes. I already knew that.

Oh, I found it.

" In correcting the editorial, The Times said it had “incorrectly stated that a link existed between political rhetoric and the 2011 shooting.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/23/b...sultPosition=1

[Minister of Truth]

This is very interesting to me, from my understanding, from the little bit I’ve read about the case, The evidence is that the New York Times made a mistake, and retracted it as soon as they were made aware of it. The law is that a simple mistake is not actionable, Sarah Palin must prove malice on the part of the New York Times, and I think that is going to be a very difficult burden for her based on these facts

Retractions have become a game, as the editors know few people will read A-14 next week to see the correction of something that appeared on A-1 today. Media progressives are becoming more brazen about refusing to make corrections at all.

[Jarod]

Retractions have become a game, as the editors know few people will read A-14 next week to see the correction of something that appeared on A-1 today. Media progressives are becoming more brazen about refusing to make corrections at all.

Do you think Palin has evidence they were being malicious?

[BidenPresident]

Do you think Palin has evidence they were being malicious?

Palin will have to prove that the NYtimes editorial policy was different for her and they uniquely attacked her.

[Minister of Truth]

Do you think Palin has evidence they were being malicious?

If it were a TV network, she could probably show years of the network saying nasty things about her and her family. It would depend on what sort of articles they have been running.

I was going to edit my above post about corrections to highlight another new trend, where, media edit stories without explaining (or even letting people know editing has occurred) what corrections have been made. Like the USA today Stacey Abrams story about the MLB boycott.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fox...ia-boycott.amp

[PostmodernProphet]

The Times knows when its lying, just like it knows when it's having its morning coffee, afternoon martini, and evening cocktail. Daily occurrences are hard to mistake.

to be fair they lie more often than they do all three combined......

[BidenPresident]

Palin will lose.

[Althea]

Palin will lose.

Especially since she actually incited the violence, 'dontcha know'?

[BidenPresident]

Especially since she actually incited the violence, 'dontcha know'?

She has to prove the NY Times deliberately sought to harm her.