Don't let this madman force us from our homes again say Ukrainian women

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Defiant Ukrainian women sum up an entire nation's fears as hundreds of thousands face being displaced for a second time by Putin's military machine

Ekaterina Pereverzeva is struggling to stop fears of war tormenting her as vast numbers of Russian forces mass across the border near her home in Ukraine's second city.

Any time could be the last peaceful moment,' she said as we talk in a bar. 'We could be sitting here with a drink as the shelling starts, unaware that people I love might be dying.'

The 27-year-old tries not to think about the gathering storm clouds – but she knows all too well how life, families and friendships can be instantly shattered by malevolent Russian president Vladimir Putin.

For she was forced to leave another Ukrainian city after it was seized by Kremlin stooges – and is terrified history will repeat itself after she has worked so hard to create a new life in Kharkiv.

'I try not to think these thoughts, to calm my fears, to carry on living,' says Ekaterina, who set up an arts and human rights website after fleeing Donetsk.

Ekaterina Pereverzeva, 27, is struggling to stop fears of war tormenting her as vast numbers of Russian forces mass across the border near her home in Ukraine's second city

The war on Ukraine's eastern flank has been largely forgotten outside the country, while even inside, the problems confronting all these displaced people became known as the 'invisible crisis' after they melted back into society.

Yet if Putin unleashes a full-scale invasion, the impact would be highly visible and felt far beyond Ukraine.

'A major war would plunge the whole of Europe into crisis,' said Oleksii Reznikov, Ukraine's Minister of Defence.

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[Legion]

Nobody is likely to stop Putin if he invades. I doubt they could if they wanted to,

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Nobody is likely to stop Putin if he invades. I doubt they could if they wanted to,

Probably not but he'll pay a very high price for it.

[Walt]

Nobody is likely to stop Putin if he invades. I doubt they could if they wanted to,

I agree with Legion here, and think almost everyone else does... So long as he is only talking about Ukraine. Obviously, we would fight Putin tooth and nail if he invaded a NATO country.

Probably not but he'll pay a very high price for it.

And here we all agree with Primavera. If Putin invades Ukraine, he will pay a high price. We cannot prevent him from doing it, but we can make it very painful to him to do so. We are not going to war over the Ukraine, but the Ukrainians definitely would go to war. And they would continue to fight for a long time.

[Minister of Truth]

Probably not but he'll pay a very high price for it.

Any chance that the Krauts will partake in the sanctions?

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Any chance that the Krauts will partake in the sanctions?

Pretty sure Nordstream 2 would be dead in the water.

[dukkha]

"minor incursion" -and Ukraine is not helpless
https://www.france24.com/en/europe/2...ussian-goliath
The Ukrainian army has grown from about 6,000 combat-ready troops to nearly 150,000 according to a summary of the US Congressional Research Service conducted in June 2021.

The US has been the main provider of military hardware such as radio equipment, military transport trucks and more than 200 Javelin man-portable antitank missiles. Britain, Poland and Lithuania have also supplied Ukraine with defensive weapons.

Even Turkey has come to Ukraine's aid by selling its famous Bayraktar TB2 drones. "While the U.S.-provided weapons, such as the Javelin antitank missiles, have garnered the most headlines of Ukraine’s armory, Kyiv’s less-hyped backing from Turkey has raised alarms in Moscow,” noted the Washington Post over the weekend.

The use of the Bayraktar TB2 drones in Libya, Syria and especially the 2020 Nagorno-Karabakh conflict between Azerbaijan and Armenia has indeed grabbed headlines. But Friedrich notes that while, “it’s true that these machines proved decisive in the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict, it’s difficult to know what impact they could have in a possible conflict with Russia, as the configuration is so different”.

Ukraine’s military modernisation is not just quantitative or restricted to material hardware. "There has been enormous progress in terms of training and preparation for combat," said Gustav Gressel, a specialist in Russian military issues at the European Council on Foreign Relations, in an interview with FRANCE 24.

According to Gressel, one of the main weaknesses of the Ukrainian defence system came from the military doctrines that had been developed during the Soviet era. "Moscow therefore knew perfectly well what to expect and could prepare itself accordingly," he explained.

The Ukrainian army's other asset comes from its soldiers. "Most of them enlisted in 2014-2015. So, it's a voluntary act to defend the homeland, which means they are highly motivated and have high morale," said Glen Grant – senior analyst at the Baltic Security Foundation who has worked in Ukraine on the country's military reform – in an interview with FRANCE 24. "Between the Javelin missiles, the drones and the morale of the troops, the Ukrainian army has become a formidable opponent," he added.

This is particularly true in the eastern Donbass region, where Ukrainian troops have gained experience in a conflict that has raged for more than seven years against Russian-backed separatists.
Russia’s aerial edge

Military experts believe Ukraine’s air force modernisation has been marginal and aviation remains the weak spot of Ukraine’s defence capacity. Most of the country’s bombers and fighter jets are more than 30 years old, and pilots are poorly trained and poorly paid. "This is why, if Russia decides to attack, and uses its planes correctly, the air support should quickly give them a decisive advantage, despite all the modernisation of the Ukrainian army," said Gressel.

"the Ukrainian army can inflict additional damage on invading Russian forces with this equipment, which can have a deterrent effect. The anti-tank weapons supplied by the United Kingdom are a good illustration of this: any Russian offensive will inevitably involve armoured vehicle manoeuvres, and if Ukraine has modern weaponry to counter them, this may cause Moscow to reconsider its assessment of the cost-benefit ratio of an offensive", Minzarari concluded.

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"minor incursion" -and Ukraine is not helpless
https://www.france24.com/en/europe/2...ussian-goliath
The Ukrainian army has grown from about 6,000 combat-ready troops to nearly 150,000 according to a summary of the US Congressional Research Service conducted in June 2021.

The US has been the main provider of military hardware such as radio equipment, military transport trucks and more than 200 Javelin man-portable antitank missiles. Britain, Poland and Lithuania have also supplied Ukraine with defensive weapons.

Even Turkey has come to Ukraine's aid by selling its famous Bayraktar TB2 drones. "While the U.S.-provided weapons, such as the Javelin antitank missiles, have garnered the most headlines of Ukraine’s armory, Kyiv’s less-hyped backing from Turkey has raised alarms in Moscow,” noted the Washington Post over the weekend.

The use of the Bayraktar TB2 drones in Libya, Syria and especially the 2020 Nagorno-Karabakh conflict between Azerbaijan and Armenia has indeed grabbed headlines. But Friedrich notes that while, “it’s true that these machines proved decisive in the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict, it’s difficult to know what impact they could have in a possible conflict with Russia, as the configuration is so different”.

Ukraine’s military modernisation is not just quantitative or restricted to material hardware. "There has been enormous progress in terms of training and preparation for combat," said Gustav Gressel, a specialist in Russian military issues at the European Council on Foreign Relations, in an interview with FRANCE 24.

According to Gressel, one of the main weaknesses of the Ukrainian defence system came from the military doctrines that had been developed during the Soviet era. "Moscow therefore knew perfectly well what to expect and could prepare itself accordingly," he explained.

The Ukrainian army's other asset comes from its soldiers. "Most of them enlisted in 2014-2015. So, it's a voluntary act to defend the homeland, which means they are highly motivated and have high morale," said Glen Grant – senior analyst at the Baltic Security Foundation who has worked in Ukraine on the country's military reform – in an interview with FRANCE 24. "Between the Javelin missiles, the drones and the morale of the troops, the Ukrainian army has become a formidable opponent," he added.

This is particularly true in the eastern Donbass region, where Ukrainian troops have gained experience in a conflict that has raged for more than seven years against Russian-backed separatists.
Russia’s aerial edge

Military experts believe Ukraine’s air force modernisation has been marginal and aviation remains the weak spot of Ukraine’s defence capacity. Most of the country’s bombers and fighter jets are more than 30 years old, and pilots are poorly trained and poorly paid. "This is why, if Russia decides to attack, and uses its planes correctly, the air support should quickly give them a decisive advantage, despite all the modernisation of the Ukrainian army," said Gressel.

"the Ukrainian army can inflict additional damage on invading Russian forces with this equipment, which can have a deterrent effect. The anti-tank weapons supplied by the United Kingdom are a good illustration of this: any Russian offensive will inevitably involve armoured vehicle manoeuvres, and if Ukraine has modern weaponry to counter them, this may cause Moscow to reconsider its assessment of the cost-benefit ratio of an offensive", Minzarari concluded.

Maybe Turkey can supply some of their Russian S400 missile systems?

[Hawkeye10]

Probably not but he'll pay a very high price for it.

The entire planet is going into economic depression, and Russia is a good friend of CHina....exactly where one wants to be in that situation as the West continues to die.

[Jack]

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Defiant Ukrainian women sum up an entire nation's fears as hundreds of thousands face being displaced for a second time by Putin's military machine

Ekaterina Pereverzeva is struggling to stop fears of war tormenting her as vast numbers of Russian forces mass across the border near her home in Ukraine's second city.

Any time could be the last peaceful moment,' she said as we talk in a bar. 'We could be sitting here with a drink as the shelling starts, unaware that people I love might be dying.'

The 27-year-old tries not to think about the gathering storm clouds – but she knows all too well how life, families and friendships can be instantly shattered by malevolent Russian president Vladimir Putin.

For she was forced to leave another Ukrainian city after it was seized by Kremlin stooges – and is terrified history will repeat itself after she has worked so hard to create a new life in Kharkiv.

'I try not to think these thoughts, to calm my fears, to carry on living,' says Ekaterina, who set up an arts and human rights website after fleeing Donetsk.

Ekaterina Pereverzeva, 27, is struggling to stop fears of war tormenting her as vast numbers of Russian forces mass across the border near her home in Ukraine's second city

The war on Ukraine's eastern flank has been largely forgotten outside the country, while even inside, the problems confronting all these displaced people became known as the 'invisible crisis' after they melted back into society.

Yet if Putin unleashes a full-scale invasion, the impact would be highly visible and felt far beyond Ukraine.

'A major war would plunge the whole of Europe into crisis,' said Oleksii Reznikov, Ukraine's Minister of Defence.

Read more:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...mes-again.html

The World watched as America scrambled out of Afghanistan. I think this has set the tone for Russia and Ukraine and China and Taiwan.
My guess is a Cyber attack followed by seizing Kiev from Belarus, while 'fake' incursions occur in the east and along the Black Sea.

[Jack]

Nobody is likely to stop Putin if he invades. I doubt they could if they wanted to,

I think the Plan is to establish a Guerrilla War type strategy to wear down Russia after it's takeover of Ukraine.

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The World watched as America scrambled out of Afghanistan. I think this has set the tone for Russia and Ukraine and China and Taiwan.
My guess is a Cyber attack followed by seizing Kiev from Belarus, while 'fake' incursions occur in the east and along the Black Sea.

That's why Putin wants NATO out of Bulgaria and Romania.

[Jack]

That's why Putin wants NATO out of Bulgaria and Romania.

... and the UK out of the European Union. (Thanks, Primavera)

[Tranquillus in Exile]

Has Brexit damaged the dreaded EU military machine?

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... and the UK out of the European Union. (Thanks, Primavera)

The EU is totally useless, NATO is the only organisation Putin respects. That's why he wants to go back to the 1997 deployments.