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    Quote Originally Posted by Stone View Post
    Im not 100% positive but I am pretty sure that the Vax was granted its emergency use to STOP THE SPREAD of Covid,...not to lessen the symptoms. legally this could be a big problem.
    Which it would have if you barnyard animals had taken it instead of eating horse paste, mainlining bleach, sticking a lightbulb up your ass, or drinking your own piss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McRocket View Post
    Ummm...you do realize it is a CDC study?

    'During the study period, COVID-19 incidence in
    both states was highest among unvaccinated persons without a
    previous COVID-19 diagnosis compared with that among the
    other three groups. During the week beginning May 30, 2021,
    compared with COVID-19 case rates among unvaccinated
    * https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tra...r100klast7days
    persons without a previous COVID-19 diagnosis, COVID-19
    case rates were 19.9-fold (California) and 18.4-fold (New York)
    lower among vaccinated persons without a previous diagnosis;
    7.2-fold (California) and 9.9-fold lower (New York) among
    unvaccinated persons with a previous COVID-19 diagnosis;
    and 9.6-fold (California) and 8.5-fold lower (New York) among
    vaccinated persons with a previous COVID-19 diagnosis.'


    https://health.ny.gov/press/releases...mm7104e1-h.pdf
    And the "study period" was....?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpressLane View Post
    Jan 19 (Reuters) - People who had previously been infected with COVID-19 were better protected against the Delta variant than those who were vaccinated alone, suggesting that natural immunity was a more potent shield than vaccines against that variant, California and New York health officials reported on Wednesday.
    https://www.reuters.com/business/hea...us-2022-01-19/

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    So all you morons that said there is no such a thing as natural immunity. Follow the science.
    Wrong, prior infection with vaccination, the combination of the two, not infection alone, and they also said the duration of that degree of immunity is possibly short lived

    The natural immunity rant via infection has been debunked endlessly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    LOL, do you promise you're leaving this time? Seem kind of upset. I thought just trolls launched ad homs. I guess not, huh?

    Your statement, and this study, are SPECIFIC to people who were infected with Delta between May and November in California and New York. That's it. There is no need for me to disprove your statement, because it is not PROVEN by this study.

    https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/art...duced-immunity
    https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2...rotection.html
    https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid...tural-immunity

    Yes, what you do IS my business, because you are prolonging the pandemic by spreading false information. In other words, by lying. That's what liars do.

    Do these conflict with the CDC study? No. They are simply far less targeted or they target a different time frame. You lose. Again.
    Oh for fuck's sake!!!

    ALL of your links are from EARLIER time periods then the the OP's one.
    So the latter OBVIOUSLY outweighs the former...DUH.


    Look you fucking troll?
    I have NO respect for you.
    You are a TROLL.
    At least 75% of your posts are you throwing ad hominem's around.
    YOU ARE USELESS TO ME.

    I read your links and nothing else.

    Listen ignoramus?
    Post a FUCKING link to FUCKING data from a FUCKING UNBIASED AND WELL-RESPECTED source that either was taken AFTER the OP study.
    OR is on Omicron.

    Otherwise?
    It means nothing to me?

    I will read NOTHING else from you on this subject.

    You bigoted, closed-minded, arrogant, trolling, old fart.


    Have a nice day.
    Last edited by McRocket; 01-21-2022 at 11:32 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    And the "study period" was....?
    It's in the study...DUH!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Wrong, prior infection with vaccination, the combination of the two, not infection alone, and they also said the duration of that degree of immunity is possibly short lived

    The natural immunity rant via infection has been debunked endlessly
    you should just study the immune system and not these studies as determinative.
    I take them for what they are - but a good understanding of t and b cells and immuno-responses
    is really helpful instead of looking at endless studies...my cheap advice

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    Quote Originally Posted by McRocket View Post
    It's in the study..
    Yes it is, so you were trying to misrepresent a narrow study across a limited period of time in only two states.

    But you didn't read the study, just like you didn't read that NY Post link the other day.

    You sloppily rush through your responses because you're impulsive and lack self-control.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McRocket View Post
    Oh for fuck's sake!!!

    ALL of your links are from EARLIER time periods then the the OP's one.
    So the latter OBVIOUSLY outweighs the former...DUH.


    Look you fucking troll?
    I have NO respect for you.
    You are a TROLL.
    At least 75% of your posts are you throwing ad hominem's around.
    YOU ARE USELESS TO ME.

    I read your links and nothing else.

    Listen ignoramus?

    Post a FUCKING link to FUCKING data from a FUCKING UNBIASED AND WELL-RESPECTED source that either was taken AFTER the OP study.
    OR is on Omicron.

    Otherwise?
    It means nothing to me?

    I will read NOTHING else from you on this subject.

    You bigoted, closed-minded, arrogant, trolling, old fart.


    Have a nice day.
    ROTFLMFAO!!! I posted three links to studies that concluded that vaccination offered better protection than natural immunity. YOU took a study for a specific time period and a specific variant, and extrapolated that result to all variants and all time periods. You made a statement of fact with no caveats. That statement was in fact false because you did not qualify it. Now you choose to ignore three studies that say something different because yours was published more recently? That is just sloppy and lazy. Which sums up your debate style.

    In fact the CDC study ITSELF points to one of these studies as part of the qualifications. You did no such thing. Again, because you are sloppy and lazy. And when I call you on it, you get angry and threaten to take your marbles home. You are less than half as as smart as you think you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    you should just study the immune system and not these studies as determinative.
    You are a fucking liar who said for two years that natural immunity offered better and indefinite protection from a COVID re-infection.

    Then you moved the bar to 8-10 months after Glenn Beck caught COVID a second time.

    The truth is that only about 2/3 of people infected with COVID develop "natural immunity", but that starts to wane within 90 days post-infection, and it's just for that variant.

    Every single thing you have said about COVID has been wrong.

    That's why Florida is now the worst place in the world for COVID, and has now surpassed NY to be the #3 highest COVID death count...and that's just the deaths DeSantis counted, not the tens of thousands of deaths he hid and obscured from the totals.

    The reality is that FL probably has the most COVID deaths in the country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    Yes it is, so you were trying to misrepresent a narrow study across a limited period of time in only two states.

    But you didn't read the study, just like you didn't read that NY Post link the other day.

    You sloppily rush through your responses because you're impulsive and lack self-control.
    Blah, blah, blah.

    Question - Have you EVER made love with someone?
    Not 'been fucked'.
    Made Love with a human being.
    YES OR NO?


    I will probably answer nothing else you ask until you answer that question.

    You Neanderthal-like thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    ROTFLMFAO!!! I posted three links to studies that concluded that vaccination offered better protection than natural immunity. YOU took a study for a specific time period and a specific variant, and extrapolated that result to all variants and all time periods. You made a statement of fact with no caveats. That statement was in fact false because you did not qualify it. Now you choose to ignore three studies that say something different because yours was published more recently? That is just sloppy and lazy. Which sums up your debate style.

    In fact the CDC study ITSELF points to one of these studies as part of the qualifications. You did no such thing. Again, because you are sloppy and lazy. And when I call you on it, you get angry and threaten to take your marbles home. You are less than half as as smart as you think you are.
    Blah blah blah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McRocket View Post
    Blah, blah, blah.

    Question - Have you EVER made love with someone?
    Not been fucked'.
    Made Love with a human being.
    YES OR NO?


    I will probably answer nothing else you ask until you answer that question.
    WTF??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darla View Post
    WTF??
    I was not talking to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darla View Post
    WTF??
    Most bizarre question I've ever seen asked here. McRocket might be retarded. He certainly has an anger management problem and inflated sense of self worth. It's actually kind of funny to watch him. I took him off ignore for the comedy. And remember, he will never answer you again. Until he does. ROTFLMFAO!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by McRocket View Post
    Blah blah blah.
    Brilliant response.

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