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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    I also find it hilarious that most people here think they know the constitution and the law better than others, at least when it serves their own purposes.
    They 'know' the Constitution by ignoring what's actually written there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Agree, no rights are absolute. Free press comes closest.

    Even with the "fire in a crowded theater" example it would be rare to stop a guy from yelling fire before he did so. If he was punished afterward then it was not a free speech case because his speech was not restricted.
    Punished for what? It's legal to yell "Fire!" in a crowded theater. Indeed, if there is a fire in the theater, he probably should.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    What's to discuss? Trumpers want to shred the Constitution, all other Americans want to support and defend it.

    I'm in the "support and defend against all enemies, foreign and domestic" category.
    A lot of Trumppers have never read the constitution, they have no idea what it says, except what some whacko on the internet says... Do any of you honestly believe Trump has ever read it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    A lot of Trumppers have never read the constitution, they have no idea what it says, except what some whacko on the internet says... Do any of you honestly believe Trump has ever read it?
    He may have tried, but the big words frustrated him. There were no pictures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    He may have tried, but the big words frustrated him. There were no pictures.
    Honestly, nobody thinks that guy has any clue what’s in the constitution right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Honestly, nobody thinks that guy has any clue what’s in the constitution right?
    He could not even give you the basics.

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    pretty sure hardly anyone in government office, or working for government officials, has actually read the constitution. Of those who have, whether government or private citizens, most of y'all don't even understand it.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    pretty sure hardly anyone in government office, or working for government officials, has actually read the constitution. Of those who have, whether government or private citizens, most of y'all don't even understand it.
    you think Constitutional lawyers don’t understand it. Only you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    you think Constitutional lawyers don’t understand it. Only you!
    I don't think i'm the only one that understands it. I'm sure there are several million out there that do understand it, but I wouldn't trust a constitutional lawyer to tell me what it means, especially because what they've been taught about constitutional law comes from the government...........not the constitution directly. i'm sure that's something that you are unable to comprehend
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    I don't think i'm the only one that understands it. I'm sure there are several million out there that do understand it, but I wouldn't trust a constitutional lawyer to tell me what it means, especially because what they've been taught about constitutional law comes from the government...........not the constitution directly. i'm sure that's something that you are unable to comprehend

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    that's about what I expected from someone who only trusts 'experts'............maybe you're an expert? are you an expert on the constitution and constitutional law? if so, i need you to show me something
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    that's about what I expected from someone who only trusts 'experts'............maybe you're an expert? are you an expert on the constitution and constitutional law? if so, i need you to show me something
    No, and I’ve never claimed to be an expert and I don’t consider you one, either, just a man with an opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Okay, so? The preamble is just a general statement about what the constitution is for. It isn't law, it isn't legal standing to use to create law. That comes in what follows, not the preamble. It's like a forward or introduction to a book, not the contents of the book itself.
    It is part of the Constitution. https://www.conlaw.org/cites2.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    It is part of the Constitution. https://www.conlaw.org/cites2.htm
    So? That doesn't change what I stated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    that's about what I expected from someone who only trusts 'experts'............maybe you're an expert? are you an expert on the constitution and constitutional law? if so, i need you to show me something
    Experts? It is written in plain English. It resists Trumpism. You should read it.

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