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    Default Weak gun laws=murder,suicide:study

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/20/us/ev...udy/index.html




    But but but………


    Republicans say it makes us saver



    They are the sociopathic party

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/20/us/ev...udy/index.html

    But but but………

    Republicans say it makes us saver

    They are the sociopathic party

    Never correct but Always right
    Spreading hate against gun-owners won't solve the problem. The problem is two-fold; mental illness and gangs in cities. Look at who is getting shot to figure out why they are being murdered.

    Additionally, there were more suicides than murders. Again, look at who is committing suicide to figure out a solution, not just bitch about how they do it. No Lefty gives a shit about Robin Williams, Anthony Bourdain and Kate Spade because they hung themselves; they didn't use a gun.

    1) it's an archival study meaning they chose their data and then compiled it.

    2) Half of all suicides are with a gun. Most are elderly white men.

    3) The murder rate is up to 7.5 which is trending up from 2016 in this chart but still well below the 90s.

    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...its-1980-peak/
    The number of murders rose 8.6 percent nationwide in 2016, according to the FBI’s newest round of crime statistics, released Monday. There were an estimated 17,250 murders1 last year, up from 15,883 in 2015. The murder rate also rose for a second straight year, but it’s still roughly where it was in 2008, far below the levels of the 1980s and early 1990s. Meanwhile, the share of murders committed with a firearm rose to a record high.2
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Spreading hate against gun-owners won't solve the problem. The problem is two-fold; mental illness and gangs in cities. Look at who is getting shot to figure out why they are being murdered.

    Additionally, there were more suicides than murders. Again, look at who is committing suicide to figure out a solution, not just bitch about how they do it. No Lefty gives a shit about Robin Williams, Anthony Bourdain and Kate Spade because they hung themselves; they didn't use a gun.

    1) it's an archival study meaning they chose their data and then compiled it.

    2) Half of all suicides are with a gun. Most are elderly white men.

    3) The murder rate is up to 7.5 which is trending up from 2016 in this chart but still well below the 90s.

    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...its-1980-peak/
    Should we be worried about you, how many patriots are you going to try and take with you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/20/us/ev...udy/index.html




    But but but………


    Republicans say it makes us saver



    They are the sociopathic party

    Never correct but Always right
    Don't want a gun, don't buy one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Spreading hate against gun-owners won't solve the problem. The problem is two-fold; mental illness and gangs in cities. Look at who is getting shot to figure out why they are being murdered.

    Additionally, there were more suicides than murders. Again, look at who is committing suicide to figure out a solution, not just bitch about how they do it. No Lefty gives a shit about Robin Williams, Anthony Bourdain and Kate Spade because they hung themselves; they didn't use a gun.

    1) it's an archival study meaning they chose their data and then compiled it.

    2) Half of all suicides are with a gun. Most are elderly white men.

    3) The murder rate is up to 7.5 which is trending up from 2016 in this chart but still well below the 90s.

    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...its-1980-peak/
    Factual studies are not hate

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    Factual studies are not hate
    Of course not. It's the political partisans, authoritarians and other assorted assholes who spread the hate.
    God bless America and those who defend our Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    It’s not my guns getting people dead
    Mine neither....and I have a few.

    In fact, none of my guns has ever tried to harm me or anyone else. Must be the good guns, not the bad guns. LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/20/us/ev...udy/index.html




    But but but………


    Republicans say it makes us saver



    They are the sociopathic party

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    Factual studies are not hate
    Fake News is not a study. Learn what 'fact' means.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolverine View Post
    Should we be worried about you, how many patriots are you going to try and take with you?
    If you think it's a problem, Matt, then call these good folks. They really want to help: https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us
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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    It’s not my guns getting people dead
    It's not my guns either. You have no guns. Your hoplophobia is obvious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    Facts are facts



    More deaths with fewer laws
    Learn what 'fact' means.
    Circular argument fallacy (fundamentalism).
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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    Facts are facts

    More deaths with fewer laws
    Of course facts are facts. Fox News uses them all the time. It's not the facts that are the problem, it's the spin.

    Here's some facts; States ranked by suicide rate: https://www.beckershospitalreview.co...te-072121.html

    States ranked by murder rate. https://worldpopulationreview.com/st...-rate-by-state

    Note the Top 10 of each. They don't match. Why do you think that is? If guns were the problem, shouldn't they match up?
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