The Democrats Just Had a Big Voting Rights Win

[Into the Night]

Why are you against voting rights?

He isn't.

[Into the Night]

You don't get to speak for anyone but yourself, Sybil. Take your meds, son, before you end up in lockdown again.

Sybil isn't here.

[Into the Night]

sophomorics. most of us learn in elementary how our democratic republic functions

I realize you choose these boring low hanging fruits because they challenge you - but they bore be. you bore me

There is no such thing as a 'democratic republic'.

A democracy is government by popular vote. There is no constitution and no representatives.
A republic is government by constitution. That constitution describes how representatives are elected.

Democrats don't want a democracy nor a republic. They want an oligarchy or dictatorship. They discard the Constitution of the United States and the constitutions of the various States.

[zymurgy]

A democracy is government by popular vote. There is no constitution and no representatives.

that is called direct democracy little boy

bye. you bore me for the last time

[Into the Night]

that is called direct democracy little boy

bye. you bore me for the last time

There is no such thing 'direct democracy'. Buzzword fallacy. It's either a democracy or it isn't. There has never been a democracy in America.

[T. A. Gardner]

The Supreme Court gutted the VRA in 2013, the John Lewis Voting Rights Act is an attempt to right the wrong.

And Schumer was not "bitch-slapped" (whenever a male uses that term I know what's what in their home). The Democratic base demanded our elected officials be put on record.

And now they have been. He did that for us, not for you. No Dem gives one shit what you think.

Tell me that after you read it. Both HR 1 the Fuck the Voters Act, and HR 3 the John Lewis Voting Reich Act turn US elections into something that any Third World tinpot dictator would be proud of. HR 3 is the more egregious as most of it leaves up to the administration and President how the actual processes would work.

No Democrat gives a shit what anyone thinks so long as they get more power and can entrench themselves in office forever. So, those who voted to gut any modicum of election integrity are now on record as being in favor of actual election fraud big time.

[T. A. Gardner]

he forgot to actually mention the win in his post, but according to the article he cited the "win" was that an Ohio court rejected the new congressional districts approved by the Republican controlled state legislature.......

What the hell did that have to do with the Senate or the Senate vote? Ohio will just redo their voting districts again, no big deal.

[T. A. Gardner]

the new deal is Biden is going to break it down to smaller bites and Biden is going to go actively sell it
with his outstanding poll numbers

And highly articulate and engaging ability to speak to audiences...

[T. A. Gardner]

Why are you against voting rights?

Complex question fallacy. But to answer your question, I'd ask you if you are in favor of these "Voting rights:"

Registering 16 and 17 year-olds to vote?
Letting third parties handle your ballot?
Never purging or updating voter registration rolls?
Same day voter registration?
Voting seasons that are months long?
No voter ID requirements to register or vote?

Those are all in HR 1 and 3 in one form or another. Do you think those are good ideas that will improve our elections?

IMO, the Heinlein model is best: only vets can vote. Only vets can serve in national office.

Why vets? Why not just land owners, or just people who have a job, or only one person per household?

That would get rid of a lot of trash from the idiots doncha think?

Depends on what you call trash and a veteran. Is someone who served but was discharged less than honorably a veteran for example?

[NiftyNiblick]

Actually, that would be society, U.S. Constitutional law and Democracy had a big win against the enemy from within. Yet obviously Trumptards with their un-American tunnel vision focusing on the destructive and seditious act of anti-American repukes' efforts to destroy voting rights of society and Democracy from within and anything else of a civilized nature failed to pay attention that their devotion to repuke sewer slime is not a guaranteed win from hell. There is more than one way to get around the filibustering and seditious repuke war on voting rights and Democracy.


For most Democrats, last week was downright depressing. It started with President Biden's impassioned plea to Senators to end the filibuster in order to pass two desperately-needed election protection bills. It ended with Senator Kyrsten Sinema killing that idea in the cradle.

For those who see the threat of a total meltdown of American democracy as very real and very near, it was a body blow. Ranging from deeply frustrated to downright enraged, many assumed that all hope was lost.

They were wrong.

Yes, losing those bills hurts. And Democrats shouldn't give up on the federal level: The torrent of Republican laws to suppress votes and subvert elections remains a clear and present danger to American democracy, and perhaps to our the ability to hold together the country itself. But for those who were paying attention, there was actually a significantly more hopeful development last week."

https://www.newsweek.com/chin-democr...pinion-1670730

I'm sorry, but this is Pollyanna-like bullshit from beinning to end.

Republican sedition has won the day, and those who don't see it are not intellectually qualified to offer an opinion.

Our piece-of-shit constitution led us to this. It was just a matter of time.

Too many unsophisticated Americans thinks of the constitution in terms of the Bill of Rights and other amendments.
What they need to look at is the body of the document itself, the articles that created the most inefficient government on the face of the planet.

It gave socially regressive rural people far great political representation that their numbers warrant, and as a result,
the great cultural centers of the nation are not actually running the nation the way it should be run.
This fatal deficiency may have taken 240 years to take us to this catastrophic point in time, but now it finally has.

The Republicans have successfully destroyed the republic.
Continuing to operate as if we were a functioning nation is pure insanity.
The republic must be dissolved and the nation partitioned immediately,
or we will all see a level of dystopia never before existent on this planet.

[Doc Dutch]

Complex question fallacy.

Then ignore it and run along.

Vets know the consequences of war. It shouldn't surprise any warrior that every combat vet in the WH was against going to Iraq. Bush had to go general shopping to find someone to lead the fiasco..or did you conveniently forget?

Obviously anything less than an Honorable discharge is disqualifying, but play Sea Lawyer all you like. I can even produce you a certificate. Oh, wait, I don't have to:

http://www.tagardnerjrlaw.com/

LOL

[Into the Night]

Why are you against voting rights?

IMO, the Heinlein model is best: only vets can vote. Only vets can serve in national office.

That would get rid of a lot of trash from the idiots doncha think?

Paradox. Discard of the Constitution.

[cancel2 2022]

Complex question fallacy. But to answer your question, I'd ask you if you are in favor of these "Voting rights:"

Registering 16 and 17 year-olds to vote?
Letting third parties handle your ballot?
Never purging or updating voter registration rolls?
Same day voter registration?
Voting seasons that are months long?
No voter ID requirements to register or vote?

Those are all in HR 1 and 3 in one form or another. Do you think those are good ideas that will improve our elections?



Why vets? Why not just land owners, or just people who have a job, or only one person per household?



Depends on what you call trash and a veteran. Is someone who served but was discharged less than honorably a veteran for example?

Apparently 16 and 17 years old teens are just children when it comes to the age of consent in places like Florida. However the Dems are quite happy to allow them to vote, Sturgeon tried the same shit in Scotland.

For Federal elections there should be one set of rules decided by non-partisan bodies like the Electoral Commission.

https://www.electoralcommission.org....-electoral-law

[Into the Night]

I'm sorry, but this is Pollyanna-like bullshit from beinning to end.

Republican sedition has won the day, and those who don't see it are not intellectually qualified to offer an opinion.

What Republican sedition? It is DEMOCRATS that discarded the Constitution and installed Biden as Chief Puppet and Comedian.

Our piece-of-shit constitution led us to this. It was just a matter of time.

Discard of the Constitution. Sedition.

Too many unsophisticated Americans thinks of the constitution in terms of the Bill of Rights and other amendments.

They are part of the Constitution. You don't get to just discard them. There's a price for what you are doing.

What they need to look at is the body of the document itself, the articles that created the most inefficient government on the face of the planet.

Governments have no 'efficiency'. Their only metric of success, since they have no profit motive, is to justify themselves and to justify their expansion. If that means creating a fake 'crisis' to 'solve' that's what they do (without ever actually solving any crisis of course!).

It gave socially regressive rural people far great political representation that their numbers warrant, and as a result,
the great cultural centers of the nation are not actually running the nation the way it should be run.

Every State is entitled to representation, regardless of it's population. That is the nature of a federation.

This fatal deficiency may have taken 240 years to take us to this catastrophic point in time, but now it finally has.

The only 'catastrophe' was the silent coup conducted by Democrats that (so far) is successful.

The Republicans have successfully destroyed the republic.

No. DEMOCRATS did. It is DEMOCRATS that caused the 2020 election to fault. It is DEMOCRATS that discard the Constitution of the United States and the constitutions of the various States. It is DEMOCRATS that installed Joe Biden as Chief Puppet and Comedian. It is DEMOCRATS that converted the federal government into The Oligarchy.

Continuing to operate as if we were a functioning nation is pure insanity.

The SOA (States of America) are still here. They are still angry at what the Democrats have done. The people in them are still angry at what the Democrats have done.

The republic must be dissolved and the nation partitioned immediately,

It is already 'dissolved'. There is no United States anymore, thanks to the DEMOCRATS.

or we will all see a level of dystopia never before existent on this planet.

We are already seeing it. Who is John Galt?

* the general strike is widening day by day.
* the revolts are getting louder day by day.
* more people are fleeing to free States day by day.
* the shortages increase day by day.
* the money is rapidly becoming worse and worse in value. People are already looking around for an alternate currency.
* black markets are sprouting day by day.
* gun and ammunition sales are higher than ever recorded. People are preparing for possible civil war.
* censorship abounds everywhere. Even loyal 'elites' are getting caught by it, implemented by other 'elites'. It is Democrat radical vs Democrat radical.
* the language Democrats use has changed so much it is no longer English. It just consists of various buzzwords without meaning or shifting meaning. I call it Liberal.
* the schools, many websites like Facebook and Twitter, Youtube, Google, Amazon, etc are under Democrat control. The Associated Press and most newspapers (including the New York Times and the LA Times) are under Democrat control. Many networks such as NPR, MSNBC, or CNN are under Democrat control. It is their propaganda service. It is effectively Pravda.
* the United States has fallen. The State of California has fallen. The State of New York has fallen. The State of Oregon is close to falling.
* racism, division, hatred, and socialism are the core of Democrat policies and programs.

Dystopia is here, dude.

[Into the Night]

Then ignore it and run along.

A complex question fallacy needs no answering. He called the fallacy correctly.

Vets know the consequences of war. It shouldn't surprise any warrior that every combat vet in the WH was against going to Iraq. Bush had to go general shopping to find someone to lead the fiasco..or did you conveniently forget?

Pivot fallacy. Random statement. No apparent coherency.

Obviously anything less than an Honorable discharge is disqualifying, but play Sea Lawyer all you like. I can even produce you a certificate. Oh, wait, I don't have to:

Insult fallacies.

Trolling. No argument presented.