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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    I guess you must have missed the part where they created 3 branches of government. It seems they were smarter than SmarterthanYou.
    it seems that you're a fucking moron of the highest caliber, devoid of any common sense or ability to comprehend. I repeat, it is the height of absolute stupidity to believe that the founders created a limited government and then handed over the reigns to define their own limitations.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Text Drivers are Killers View Post
    It was nearly 29 years ago that President Clinton SENT IN TANKS to burn alive the 85 Branch Davidians that he hated so much because they were christians and gun owners and white (mostly). In texas there is no SOL on murder or manslaughter so i say go for it. His crime was TELEVISED and there is no question of his guilt. This would also rid us of hillary.
    Nyet, comrade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    it seems that you're a fucking moron of the highest caliber, devoid of any common sense or ability to comprehend. I repeat, it is the height of absolute stupidity to believe that the founders created a limited government and then handed over the reigns to define their own limitations.
    The founders recognized that if they allowed everyone to interpret the Constitution however they wanted to there would be chaos. They had to have one final authority that would be the ones that decided the meaning. Without that there would be a million SmarterthanYou's claiming they knew the Constitution when they clearly had never read it. They said the courts were that authority. But they didn't leave the court with the final say. Can you guess what can happen if the majority disagree with a court ruling on the meaning? Actually, you don't have to guess. You only need to read the Constitution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    The founders recognized that if they allowed everyone to interpret the Constitution however they wanted to there would be chaos. They had to have one final authority that would be the ones that decided the meaning. Without that there would be a million SmarterthanYou's claiming they knew the Constitution when they clearly had never read it. They said the courts were that authority. But they didn't leave the court with the final say. Can you guess what can happen if the majority disagree with a court ruling on the meaning? Actually, you don't have to guess. You only need to read the Constitution.
    you fell for the establishment koolaid that you're not smart enough to understand the constitution. congratulations, moron.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    you fell for the establishment koolaid that you're not smart enough to understand the constitution. congratulations, moron.
    Having a final authority on the meaning doesn't mean others can't read and understand it. It means that in order for the Constitution to work, there has to be a final say on it that can be accepted or if not accepted then overturned by an amendment. Your comments show you should rely on others that are smarter than SmarterthanYou. I think others that aren't SmarterthanYou but are smarter than you will recognize you have no argument but only name calling. You didn't address any of the points I raised.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    Having a final authority on the meaning doesn't mean others can't read and understand it. It means that in order for the Constitution to work, there has to be a final say on it that can be accepted or if not accepted then overturned by an amendment. Your comments show you should rely on others that are smarter than SmarterthanYou. I think others that aren't SmarterthanYou but are smarter than you will recognize you have no argument but only name calling. You didn't address any of the points I raised.
    so, based upon your argument, even though the 2nd Amendment SPECIFICALLY says 'shall not be infringed' and every single piece of historical documentation from the framers before and after ratification state that the federal government has zero power over the arms of the people, you still accept the courts reasoning that 'shall not be infringed' really means 'reasonable restrictions'???????
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    so, based upon your argument, even though the 2nd Amendment SPECIFICALLY says 'shall not be infringed' and every single piece of historical documentation from the framers before and after ratification state that the federal government has zero power over the arms of the people, you still accept the courts reasoning that 'shall not be infringed' really means 'reasonable restrictions'???????
    Of course it means reasonable restrictions. If we accept that there can be no restrictions then one could use their guns to kill anyone they wanted to and the Constitution would not allow their guns to be taken away. Is it a reasonable restriction that murderers are not allowed to carry guns? Rights are always balanced against other rights. At what point does the right to own a gun interfere with other rights granted in the Constitution or that are inalienable? That is the balancing act that always has to be taken into account with any rights.

    Unless you are willing to argue that murderers in jail should be allowed guns then you have already conceded that reasonable restrictions are allowed and we are only discussing which restrictions are reasonable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    Of course it means reasonable restrictions. If we accept that there can be no restrictions then one could use their guns to kill anyone they wanted to and the Constitution would not allow their guns to be taken away.
    thats an extremely idiotic and hyperbolic bullshit argument. try again

    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    Is it a reasonable restriction that murderers are not allowed to carry guns? Rights are always balanced against other rights. At what point does the right to own a gun interfere with other rights granted in the Constitution or that are inalienable? That is the balancing act that always has to be taken into account with any rights.
    read above. those comments also apply to this argument

    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    Unless you are willing to argue that murderers in jail should be allowed guns then you have already conceded that reasonable restrictions are allowed and we are only discussing which restrictions are reasonable.
    same comments for this bullshit. do they teach you that bullshit at liberal universities?

    seriously, it's like you morons have never actually read the constitution and how it was ratified. you just listen to establishment bullshit because they are the establishment
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    thats an extremely idiotic and hyperbolic bullshit argument. try again


    read above. those comments also apply to this argument

    same comments for this bullshit. do they teach you that bullshit at liberal universities?

    seriously, it's like you morons have never actually read the constitution and how it was ratified. you just listen to establishment bullshit because they are the establishment
    So you have no rebuttal? Gosh. Who would have thunk it that you would resort to name calling and diversionary tactics?

    So, do you think the 2nd amendment means every person can own a gun even those convicted of murder? If you think murderers should not be allowed to have guns then you have agreed that some restrictions are reasonable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    So you have no rebuttal? Gosh. Who would have thunk it that you would resort to name calling and diversionary tactics?
    I see no beneficial purpose in trying to rebut such a ridiculous argument

    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    So, do you think the 2nd amendment means every person can own a gun even those convicted of murder? If you think murderers should not be allowed to have guns then you have agreed that some restrictions are reasonable.
    if they can't be trusted in public with a weapon, then they can't be trusted in public. once released from incarceration, they should be able to exercise ALL of their rights
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    I see no beneficial purpose in trying to rebut such a ridiculous argument


    if they can't be trusted in public with a weapon, then they can't be trusted in public. once released from incarceration, they should be able to exercise ALL of their rights
    Do you think everyone should be allowed to have military grade weapons including heavy artillery?

    If they can't be trusted in public with a weapon should they be allowed to have a weapon when incarcerated?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    Do you think everyone should be allowed to have military grade weapons including heavy artillery?
    the PEOPLE, who are supposed to be the rightful masters of this country, should have access to ANY weapon that the government would use against them

    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Richard Saunders View Post
    If they can't be trusted in public with a weapon should they be allowed to have a weapon when incarcerated?
    read the 5th Amendment. people who have been incarcerated due to criminal activity can have their rights temporarily denied using due process of law.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    the PEOPLE, who are supposed to be the rightful masters of this country, should have access to ANY weapon that the government would use against them
    So you think Joe down the street is entitled to own a nuclear weapon and can put in a missile silo if he desires?

    read the 5th Amendment. people who have been incarcerated due to criminal activity can have their rights temporarily denied using due process of law.
    The funny thing is I have read the fifth and it says nothing about having your first or second amendment rights taken away. Life, liberty, and property are the only things listed in the fifth. The court upon conviction can take a gun away if it is property but why can't someone who is convicted simply go get another one? To take that one away after a conviction would violate the fifth's double jeopardy prohibition. Either you can't read or you don't think owning a gun is a right. Which is it?
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