Is it time to re-think free speech?

[Flash]

Bribery is not free speech. You're free to believe otherwise.

You still haven't explained the bribery thing. Who is being bribed from independent expenditures from sources that remain secret?

[BidenPresident]

You still haven't explained the bribery thing. Who is being bribed from independent expenditures from sources that remain secret?

You are either pretending to be naive in order to be annoying or are genuinely naive.

[Matt Dillon]

Yes, it was about independent expenditures.

It is still illegal for unions and corporations to give contributions to candidate campaigns.

No, it was about corporate bribery of politicians.

No it's not.

[Flash]

You are either pretending to be naive in order to be annoying or are genuinely naive.

I think I am informed enough not to believe the simplistic money bribes congressman conspiracy. Numerous studies have debunked this relationship.

What vote did your congressman make because he was bribed? Who bribed him? Do you know who your Rep or Sen voted on any issue? You should be able to come up with examples since bribery is so common.

People vote and contribute to officials because we liked the way they vote, not to bribe them on future votes.

Do Campaign Donations Alter How a Politician Votes? Or, Do Donors Support Candidates Who Value the Same Things That They Do?

Stephen G. Bronars
John R. Lott, Jr.



University of TexasUniversity of Chicago

[Into the Night]

It's weird to even type that. It's one of our most sacred principles.

But the original arguments for it & the marketplace of ideas had at its foundation the idea of a mature, educated populace. The theory was that by allowing all speech, the truth would filter everything else out & rise to the top.

That's not happening. I don't think it's really disputable that allowing ALL speech - especially in the internet age, which the founders could not have foreseen - is hurting us as a population, as a society & as a planet. Belief in lies and conspiracy is becoming widespread and ingrained.

If possible, try not to knee-jerk this one. I'm interested in other thoughts on it. It just isn't working as intended.

Discard of the Constitution. You don't get to speak for the dead. Omniscience fallacy.

[Into the Night]

Free speech is one of those principles everyone believes in but nobody can define. A rather meaningless term.

Words mean things, dude.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Congress (and in turn the federal government) has NO authority to limit speech in any way. They have NO authority to limit the press in any way. They have NO authority to establish a state religion, nor to ban any religion. They have NO authority to ban or limit peaceful assemblies (peaceful protests) against the government.

This is plain. You need to learn English.

Censorship doesn't work, dude.

[Into the Night]

Where did he say anything about censorship?

RQAA. So did you.

[Into the Night]

Yes, and what did that have to do with censorship?

RQAA

[Into the Night]

News should not be allowed to proffer known lies


We need laws to prevent this shit

Lies are not news. Congress as NO authority to limit speech in any way.

[Into the Night]

Fox keeps getting sued for reporting LIES AS NEWS



we should not have to wait for slow courts to stop this evil

You are describing CNN and MSNBC.

[Into the Night]

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So?

[Into the Night]

It takes years to stop their individual lies




We need to stop these assholes

Unconstitutional.

[Into the Night]

Stop your lying whore “news” stations from ruining the nation and peoples lives



Then we won’t have to regulate them

Unconstitutional. Congress as NO authority to regulate the news or any piece of fiction.

[Into the Night]

No, we need to strengthen free speech. Platforms are free to restrict misinformation if they choose and people are free to correct any misinformation they find. We don't need government restricting free speech.

They simply want to discard the Constitution again.

[Into the Night]

There is no problem with free speech. Hard to see why it's an issue.

Yet you support censorship. Paradox, dude.