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    Default Mathmatics, philosophy, and the real world

    Mathematics has spread its influence far beyond the realm of numbers. The concepts and methods of mathematics are crucially important to all of culture and affect the way countless people in all spheres of life look at the world. Consider these cases:

    > When Leonardo da Vinci planned his mural The Last Supper in the 1490s, he employed geometric perspective to create a uniquely striking composition, centered on the head of Jesus.

    >When Thomas Jefferson sat down to write the Declaration of Independence in 1776, he composed it on the model of a geometric proof, which is what gives it much of its power as a defense of liberty.

    > When Albert Einstein developed his theory of general relativity in the early 20th century, he used non-Euclidean geometry to prove that the path of a ray of light, in the presence of a gravitational field, is not straight but curved.


    Intriguing examples like these reflect the important dialogue between mathematics and philosophy that has flourished throughout history. Indeed, mathematics has consistently helped determine the course of Western philosophical thought.

    Views about human nature, religion, truth, space and time, and much more have been shaped and honed by the ideas and practices of this vital scientific field.



    Source credit: Judith V. Grabiner, Ph.D.

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    One example I read about is that Abraham Lincoln made it a point to read and memorize Euclid's Elements.

    Supposedly, Lincoln claimed Euclid was the best training a lawyer could receive, because it trained the brain how to construct logical, ironclad theorems to prove the truth of an argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Mathematics has spread its influence far beyond the realm of numbers. The concepts and methods of mathematics are crucially important to all of culture and affect the way countless people in all spheres of life look at the world. Consider these cases:

    > When Leonardo da Vinci planned his mural The Last Supper in the 1490s, he employed geometric perspective to create a uniquely striking composition, centered on the head of Jesus.

    >When Thomas Jefferson sat down to write the Declaration of Independence in 1776, he composed it on the model of a geometric proof, which is what gives it much of its power as a defense of liberty.

    > When Albert Einstein developed his theory of general relativity in the early 20th century, he used non-Euclidean geometry to prove that the path of a ray of light, in the presence of a gravitational field, is not straight but curved.


    Intriguing examples like these reflect the important dialogue between mathematics and philosophy that has flourished throughout history. Indeed, mathematics has consistently helped determine the course of Western philosophical thought.

    Views about human nature, religion, truth, space and time, and much more have been shaped and honed by the ideas and practices of this vital scientific field.



    Source credit: Judith V. Grabiner, Ph.D.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    One example I read about is that Abraham Lincoln made it a point to read and memorize Euclid's Elements.

    Supposedly, Lincoln claimed Euclid was the best training a lawyer could receive, because it trained the brain how to construct logical, ironclad theorems to prove the truth of an argument.
    No theory can be proven True.
    Proofs only occur in closed functional systems, such as mathematics or logic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    No theory can be proven True.
    Proofs only occur in closed functional systems, such as mathematics or logic.
    But you knew exactly what I meant as a practical matter, but yet you still could not resist the compulsion to play word games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Science is not mathematics. Religion is neither science nor mathematics.
    As of now, precognition is the only metaphysical concept showing positive results under scientific testing. That means there is some sort of mathematical logic or consciousness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    But you knew exactly what I meant as a practical matter, but yet you still could not resist the compulsion to play word games.
    It is YOU playing word games. Inversion fallacy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goat View Post
    As of now, precognition is the only metaphysical concept showing positive results under scientific testing. That means there is some sort of mathematical logic or consciousness.
    There is no such thing as 'scientific testing', unless you are attempting to destroy a theory of science. Science is not 'metaphysical'. Science is a set of falsifiable theories.
    Mathematics is not logic. Logic is not mathematics. Mathematics is not consciousness. Logic is not consciousness.

    No theory can ever be proven True.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    There is no such thing as 'scientific testing', unless you are attempting to destroy a theory of science. Science is not 'metaphysical'. Science is a set of falsifiable theories.
    Mathematics is not logic. Logic is not mathematics. Mathematics is not consciousness. Logic is not consciousness.

    No theory can ever be proven True.
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