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    Becoming a logical person is not just a matter of memorizing and applying formulas, or learning how to tell the difference between a valid and an invalid syllogism.

    Rather, it involves cultivating intellectual habits and skills that, though they may seem simple and obvious, are only achieved after years of struggle and education.

    In his book Being Logical: A Guide to Good Thinking, professor D.Q. McInerny lays out the following 10 habits that people must cultivate if they are to think clearly and effectively:

    1) They’re Attentive.

    “Many mistakes in reasoning are explained by the fact that we are not paying sufficient attention to the situation in which we find ourselves,” writes McInerny. The logical person has thus trained himself or herself to always pay attention to the details—even in situations that are familiar—lest he or she make a careless judgment.

    2) They Get the Facts Straight.

    “If a given fact is an existing thing to which we have access, then the surest way to establish its actuality is to put ourselves in its presence. We then have direct evidence of it. If we cannot establish it by direct evidence, we must rigorously test the authenticity and reliability of whatever indirect evidence we appeal to so that, on the basis of that evidence, we can confidently establish the reality of the thing.”

    3) They Ensure That Their Ideas Are Clear.

    Our ideas are the means by which our minds understand the objective world. Clear ideas faithfully reflect that world, whereas unclear ideas give us a distorted view of the world. The logical person is constantly testing his or her ideas to make sure that they accurately depict their objects.

    4) They’re Mindful of the Origins of Ideas.

    The logical person knows which of his or her ideas are based on things that actually exist in the world. He or she knows, for instance, that his or her idea of a “cat” corresponds to things in the objective world known as “cats”. As a counterexample, there are a lot of people who have an idea that there existed a female pope named Joan in the 9th century. But if they spent time looking into the source of that idea, they would find that it originated in legend.

    5) They Match Ideas to Facts.

    Writes McInerny, “To prevent my idea from being a product of pure subjectivism, in which case it could not be communicated to others, I must continuously touch base with those many facts in the objective world from which the idea was born.” This is easy to do with ideas that have a simple correspondence to things in the world outside our minds. It’s much harder to do with more complex ideas. For these ideas to remain sound, they must constantly be linked to, and supported by, facts that are accessible to all.

    6) They Match Words to Ideas.

    We can only communicate our ideas to others if we use words that accurately convey those ideas. But finding the right words can be difficult. When difficulty arises, we should go back to the sources:

    “How do we ensure that our words are adequate to the ideas they seek to convey? The process is essentially the same as the one we follow when confirming the clarity and soundness of our ideas: We must go back to the sources of the ideas. Often we cannot come up with the right word for an idea because we don’t have a firm grasp on the idea itself. Usually, when we clarify the idea by checking it against its source in the objective world, the right word will come to us.”

    7) They Communicate Effectively.

    Logic is ultimately about determining whether statements are true or false. If others are to accurately determine a statement’s truth, it needs to be communicated to them in a clear manner.

    McInerny offers the following guidelines for clear communication:

    • Don’t assume your audience understands your meaning if you don’t make it explicit.
    • Speak in complete sentences.
    • Don’t treat evaluative statements (e.g. “That work of art is ugly”) as if they were statements of objective fact.
    • Avoid double negatives.
    • Gear your language to your audience.

    8) They Avoid Vague and Ambiguous Language.

    “Vague” and “ambiguous” both come from Latin words that mean “wandering”. Vague and ambiguous language tends to wander about ideas rather than having a fixed, definite meaning. A logical person uses precise language so that his or her audience knows exactly what he or she is talking about, and can adequately evaluate the truth of his or her claims. If he or she refers to more complex terms such as “freedom” or “equality,” he or she makes sure to establish his particular understanding of those terms.

    9) They Avoid Evasive Language.

    “The problem with evasive language, language that does not state directly what a speaker or writer has in mind, is twofold. First, and obviously, it can deceive an audience. Second, and more subtly, it can have a deleterious effect on the people who use it, distorting their sense of reality. The user shapes language, but language shapes the user as well. If we consistently use language that serves to distort reality, we can eventually come to believe our own twisted rhetoric.”

    10) They Seek to Arrive at the Truth of Things.

    The purpose of logic, according to McInerny, is to arrive at the truth of things. He explains that there are two basic forms of truth: “ontological” truth—what actually exists and has real being; and “logical” truth—the truth of statements. Ultimately, he reminds us, “What determines the truth or falsity of a statement is what actually exists in the real world. Logical truth, in other words, is founded upon ontological truth.”

    The authentically logical person, therefore, keeps his or her logic rooted in truth, and never lets it devolve into mere verbal trickery.







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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post


    Becoming a logical person is not just a matter of memorizing and applying formulas, or learning how to tell the difference between a valid and an invalid syllogism.

    Rather, it involves cultivating intellectual habits and skills that, though they may seem simple and obvious, are only achieved after years of struggle and education.

    In his book Being Logical: A Guide to Good Thinking, professor D.Q. McInerny lays out the following 10 habits that people must cultivate if they are to think clearly and effectively:

    1) They’re Attentive.

    “Many mistakes in reasoning are explained by the fact that we are not paying sufficient attention to the situation in which we find ourselves,” writes McInerny. The logical person has thus trained himself or herself to always pay attention to the details—even in situations that are familiar—lest he or she make a careless judgment.

    2) They Get the Facts Straight.

    “If a given fact is an existing thing to which we have access, then the surest way to establish its actuality is to put ourselves in its presence. We then have direct evidence of it. If we cannot establish it by direct evidence, we must rigorously test the authenticity and reliability of whatever indirect evidence we appeal to so that, on the basis of that evidence, we can confidently establish the reality of the thing.”

    3) They Ensure That Their Ideas Are Clear.

    Our ideas are the means by which our minds understand the objective world. Clear ideas faithfully reflect that world, whereas unclear ideas give us a distorted view of the world. The logical person is constantly testing his or her ideas to make sure that they accurately depict their objects.

    4) They’re Mindful of the Origins of Ideas.

    The logical person knows which of his or her ideas are based on things that actually exist in the world. He or she knows, for instance, that his or her idea of a “cat” corresponds to things in the objective world known as “cats”. As a counterexample, there are a lot of people who have an idea that there existed a female pope named Joan in the 9th century. But if they spent time looking into the source of that idea, they would find that it originated in legend.

    5) They Match Ideas to Facts.

    Writes McInerny, “To prevent my idea from being a product of pure subjectivism, in which case it could not be communicated to others, I must continuously touch base with those many facts in the objective world from which the idea was born.” This is easy to do with ideas that have a simple correspondence to things in the world outside our minds. It’s much harder to do with more complex ideas. For these ideas to remain sound, they must constantly be linked to, and supported by, facts that are accessible to all.

    6) They Match Words to Ideas.

    We can only communicate our ideas to others if we use words that accurately convey those ideas. But finding the right words can be difficult. When difficulty arises, we should go back to the sources:

    “How do we ensure that our words are adequate to the ideas they seek to convey? The process is essentially the same as the one we follow when confirming the clarity and soundness of our ideas: We must go back to the sources of the ideas. Often we cannot come up with the right word for an idea because we don’t have a firm grasp on the idea itself. Usually, when we clarify the idea by checking it against its source in the objective world, the right word will come to us.”

    7) They Communicate Effectively.

    Logic is ultimately about determining whether statements are true or false. If others are to accurately determine a statement’s truth, it needs to be communicated to them in a clear manner.

    McInerny offers the following guidelines for clear communication:

    • Don’t assume your audience understands your meaning if you don’t make it explicit.
    • Speak in complete sentences.
    • Don’t treat evaluative statements (e.g. “That work of art is ugly”) as if they were statements of objective fact.
    • Avoid double negatives.
    • Gear your language to your audience.

    8) They Avoid Vague and Ambiguous Language.

    “Vague” and “ambiguous” both come from Latin words that mean “wandering”. Vague and ambiguous language tends to wander about ideas rather than having a fixed, definite meaning. A logical person uses precise language so that his or her audience knows exactly what he or she is talking about, and can adequately evaluate the truth of his or her claims. If he or she refers to more complex terms such as “freedom” or “equality,” he or she makes sure to establish his particular understanding of those terms.

    9) They Avoid Evasive Language.

    “The problem with evasive language, language that does not state directly what a speaker or writer has in mind, is twofold. First, and obviously, it can deceive an audience. Second, and more subtly, it can have a deleterious effect on the people who use it, distorting their sense of reality. The user shapes language, but language shapes the user as well. If we consistently use language that serves to distort reality, we can eventually come to believe our own twisted rhetoric.”

    10) They Seek to Arrive at the Truth of Things.

    The purpose of logic, according to McInerny, is to arrive at the truth of things. He explains that there are two basic forms of truth: “ontological” truth—what actually exists and has real being; and “logical” truth—the truth of statements. Ultimately, he reminds us, “What determines the truth or falsity of a statement is what actually exists in the real world. Logical truth, in other words, is founded upon ontological truth.”

    The authentically logical person, therefore, keeps his or her logic rooted in truth, and never lets it devolve into mere verbal trickery.

    https://www.intellectualtakeout.org/article/10-habits-logical-people/
    I already practice all of these.

     
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    Logical. Challenge people to debate and ban them all. Fucking hilarious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Logical. Challenge people to debate and ban them all. Fucking hilarious.


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    It's one thing to thread ban habitual trolls.
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    I ban people.
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    Then I’m a coward and proud of it. I will ignore them and ban them.
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    Guess which Legion Troll gets banned from my threads from now on!
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    I often have a thread ban list when I start a thread.
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    It's a good way to cut down on trolls who only show up to start flame wars or derail the topic.
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    If you're trying to have a serious discussion, whether it's off-topic or about politics, there are some who just cannot act like adults and should be excluded.
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    I thread-ban the known trolls and the more virulent racists like TDAK, TOP, CFM, Legion, USF, H. Moron, etc. They exist only to hijack a discussion and turn it into a new segment of their ongoing vendettas with normal ppl.
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    I only ban obvious trolls and posters who blatantly engage in overt racism, misogyny, bigotry, libel, and slander. Those are not forms of "free speech" and they are not even remotely close to conventional political speech. The only reason anyone could make it onto my thread ban list is if they are either a troll, or they are a terrible human being.
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    The only people who ever get banned are racists, slanderous liars, and belligerent trolls. I have been here since 2006 and have put up with a vast litany of insults, toxic grudges, bogus innuendo, slander, and petty resentments. So you are going to have to work much harder to make the case I am thin-skinned.
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    Does not seem cowardly to me. Like other mature adults who respect social etiquette, it just makes sense to exclude known racists, belligerent bigots, girlish gossipers, and libelers from civilized conversation.
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    I thread banned his ass so he couldn't shit the place up with his stinking shit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    I already practice all of these.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Logical. Challenge people to debate and ban them all. Fucking hilarious.
    It's amazing how everyone else on the forum but Lesion is a troll.
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    Does Legion honestly think JPP is a place, anyone would keep to any standard even remotely like that? Not one of us here hasn't devolved our practiced standards here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenUsurper View Post
    Logical. Challenge people to debate and ban them all. Fucking hilarious.
    If I'd "challenged people to a debate" and "banned them all", you'd have a point.

    Since I didn't, you don't.

    Do you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triggered Lizard View Post
    Does Legion honestly think JPP is a place, anyone would keep to any standard even remotely like that? Not one of us here hasn't devolved our practiced standards here.
    What gave you the idea that I "think JPP is a place anyone would keep to any standard even remotely like that"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jade Dragon View Post
    Does Legion honestly think JPP is a place, anyone would keep to any standard even remotely like that? Not one of us here hasn't devolved our practiced standards here.
    So true. I remember how I posted when I created a JPP account. We all circled around the bowl a few times before we ended up in the basement of the dungeon's sewer that's called JPP.

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