Into the Night (01-16-2022)
really?.......then who was the notary?......the only people who "signed" the document were the governor and the secretary of the state........having been a notary for 43 years I understand how notarization works, do you?......I have to sign as the notary.......I verify I have examined the identity of the signers........I have a notary seal that I use to impress the document (only required for documents that are being used in another state).......the notary seal has my name on it, not the state's seal.....
Last edited by PostmodernProphet; 01-16-2022 at 07:21 AM.
Isaiah 6:5
“Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”
Into the Night (01-16-2022)
Last edited by PostmodernProphet; 01-16-2022 at 07:33 AM.
Isaiah 6:5
“Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”
"Hatred is a failure of imagination" - Graham Greene, "The Power and the Glory"
They tried to steal the election:
Michigan AG asks feds to investigate fack electors.
"Michigan’s attorney general is asking federal prosecutors to open a criminal investigation into 16 Republicans who submitted false certificates stating they were the state’s presidential electors despite Joe Biden’s 154,000-vote victory in 2020.
On Jan. 8, 2021, the Office of the Federal Register — which coordinates certain functions of the Electoral College between states and Congress — notified Michigan's elections director and Gov. Gretchen Whitmer's chief lawyer in an email that it received unofficial, signed certificates from GOP electors who had not been appointed by the Democratic governor. The group includes Republican National Committeewoman Kathy Berden and Meshawn Maddock, co-chair of the Michigan Republican Party.
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LANSING, Mich. -- Michigan's attorney general is asking federal prosecutors to open a criminal investigation into 16 Republicans who submitted false certificates stating they were the state's presidential electors despite Joe Biden's 154,000-vote victory in 2020.
Dana Nessel, a Democrat, disclosed Thursday that her office had been evaluating charges for nearly a year but decided to refer the matter to the U.S. attorney in western Michigan.
“Under state law, I think clearly you have forgery of a public record, which is a 14-year offense, and election law forgery, which is a five-year offense," she told MSNBC's Rachel Maddow. But the Justice Department, she said, is best suited to probe and potentially prosecute."
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I have never heard any stories of Democrats ever doing this.
What a bunch of cheaters these Republicans are.
When Donald Trump hijacked the Republican Party, he tossed their morals out the window.
The morals of the Republican Party are now the morals have a man who has no morals.
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Doc Dutch (01-16-2022)
That was the actual document, not the forgery. Using the official state stamp serves the same purpose as the notary.
Since as a notary you had to verify the identify of the signers she failed to verify their identify because
the governor and secretary of state did not sign the phony document. Also, she had no authority to use the state seal. She submitted this as an official document which was a forgery.
As a notary would there be any problem if you verified the signatures of the governor and secretary of state on a document they did not sign?
Seems like it's worth a federal investigation as part of combined effort with former POTUS and the WH to overthrow an election. By itself, sure, they could claim it was a joke, but in concert with all the other efforts, it looks like seditious conspiracy.
Maybe they'll just be fined and not do 20 years like the white supremacist terrorist assholes, but they are all part of the same conspiracy, IMO.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2384
If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.
"Hatred is a failure of imagination" - Graham Greene, "The Power and the Glory"
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"The atmosphere is among the factors that determines the Earth's atmosphere." --ZenMode
"Donald has failed in almost every endeavor he has attempted. " --floridafan
"Abortion is not a moral issue. " --BidenPresident
"Propaganda can also be factual." --Flash
"Even after being vaccinated, you shed virus particles." --Jerome
"no slavery is forcing another into labor" -archives
"Evs are much safer from fires" -- Nordberg
"Abortion has killed no one." -- LurchAddams
"The atmosphere is among the factors that determines the Earth's atmosphere." --ZenMode
"Donald has failed in almost every endeavor he has attempted. " --floridafan
"Abortion is not a moral issue. " --BidenPresident
"Propaganda can also be factual." --Flash
"Even after being vaccinated, you shed virus particles." --Jerome
"no slavery is forcing another into labor" -archives
"Evs are much safer from fires" -- Nordberg
"Abortion has killed no one." -- LurchAddams
I think they are arguing that the electors chosen by the state are not legitimate because of voter fraud and that their electors are the legitimate slate (which I think they send in first). Sounds like the election of 1876 where both parties in the former Confederacy claimed to have the legal electors.
"The atmosphere is among the factors that determines the Earth's atmosphere." --ZenMode
"Donald has failed in almost every endeavor he has attempted. " --floridafan
"Abortion is not a moral issue. " --BidenPresident
"Propaganda can also be factual." --Flash
"Even after being vaccinated, you shed virus particles." --Jerome
"no slavery is forcing another into labor" -archives
"Evs are much safer from fires" -- Nordberg
"Abortion has killed no one." -- LurchAddams
The documents were not forged.
You can't make the evidence of election fraud disappear by deflection, dude.
Contextomy fallacy.
There was no 'scheme'.
There was no crime.
You can't make evidence of election fraud disappear by insulting people either.
"The atmosphere is among the factors that determines the Earth's atmosphere." --ZenMode
"Donald has failed in almost every endeavor he has attempted. " --floridafan
"Abortion is not a moral issue. " --BidenPresident
"Propaganda can also be factual." --Flash
"Even after being vaccinated, you shed virus particles." --Jerome
"no slavery is forcing another into labor" -archives
"Evs are much safer from fires" -- Nordberg
"Abortion has killed no one." -- LurchAddams
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