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Thread: The art of mathematical argument

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    That's a weird theory.

    I don't think the gravitational force is a real force. Hear me out. It is not a force in the sense that the other 3 fundamental forces are.

    It's the structure of space-time continuum that makes it appear to be a force. One of Einstein's thought experiments involves elevator and train.
    Right. Gravity is a geometry, not a force.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Right. Gravity is a geometry, not a force.
    Yeah. That's why I think they won't unify the forces unless they approach it from different way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Yeah. That's why I think they won't unify the forces unless they approach it from different way.
    As I understand it, a grand unification is going to require a verifiable theory of quantum gravity

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    As I understand it, a grand unification is going to require a verifiable theory of quantum gravity
    Maybe.

    Gravity is just an acceleration.

    Ever been in a tilt a whirl or a spinning carnival ride? Your weight increases. But there is no actual gravitational force there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Then you don't understand what code means. Any meaningful information.
    That is such a nebulous and ill-defined definition as to be almost useless.

    Photons carry information. DNA carries information. Photographs carry information. Radio waves and electromagnetic energy carries information. Art conveys information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    That is such a nebulous and ill-defined definition as to be almost useless.

    Photons carry information. Photographs carry information. Radio waves and electromagnetic energy carries information. Art conveys information.
    Now you get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Now you get it.
    Before life was formed, how was life formed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Before life was formed, how was life formed?
    That sentence has no meaning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    That sentence has no meaning.
    If there was no structure, how was life formed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    If there was no structure, how was life formed?
    Where does structure come from? Why does it have to come from somewhere?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Where does structure come from? Why does it have to come from somewhere?
    That's the point, isn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    That's the point, isn't it?
    I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    I guess.
    If there was no structure, how can life possibly arised?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    If there was no structure, how can life possibly arised?
    There is structure. I never denied that

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    There is structure. I never denied that
    Right. And the structure is math.

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