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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    I have friends in both the military and the guards. I doubt they would punch me.
    Your statement was ignorant and stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    We are also free not to pursue those things.
    Yup, that’s all we ever wanted, you and your neighbors to have A CHOICE! Why did you fight against the choice?!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Your statement was ignorant and stupid.
    What was ignorant and stupid about it?

    Do you have evidence that he is lying?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    You don’t think the National Guard is military?

    Go ask a guard member… see if you get a swift punch in the face.

    https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/uni...national-guard

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    Agreed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McRocket View Post
    What was ignorant and stupid about it?

    Do you have evidence that he is lying?
    It’s ignorant to say the Guard is not part of the military.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    You don't even know the difference between the National Guard and the military. Traders? What were they trading? Baseball cards? DUH!
    Excuse me.

    But the Guards and Reserves ARE part of the United States Military.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reserv...s_Armed_Forces
    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/246

    There is no difference between the two because they BOTH are the same thing.

    The military.

    Good day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    It’s ignorant to say the Guard is not part of the military.
    Oh sorry.

    You are 100% right about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Your statement was ignorant and stupid.
    I guess if you call a fact ignorant and stupid
    Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    They backed the progressives on January 6, And camped out in the capital for weeks To make sure those traders didn’t come back.

    Brokers are outlawed in DC now? Who knew?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    You don’t think the National Guard is military?

    Go ask a guard member… see if you get a swift punch in the face.

    https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/uni...national-guard

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    How would the regressive states survive without California and New York’s money?

    How would CA survive without Federal welfare and how would NY eat without food from other states?

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    Quote Originally Posted by signalmankenneth View Post
    Joe Biden had spent a year in the hope that America could go back to normal. But last Thursday, the first anniversary of the deadly insurrection at the US Capitol, the president finally recognised the full scale of the current threat to American democracy.

    “At this moment, we must decide,” Biden said in Statuary Hall, where rioters had swarmed a year earlier. “What kind of nation are we going to be? Are we going to be a nation that accepts political violence as a norm?”

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    It is a question that many inside America and beyond are now asking. In a deeply divided society, where even a national tragedy such as 6 January only pushed people further apart, there is fear that that day was the just the beginning of a wave of unrest, conflict and domestic terrorism.

    A slew of recent opinion polls show a significant minority of Americans at ease with the idea of violence against the government. Even talk of a second American civil war has gone from fringe fantasy to media mainstream.

    “Is a Civil War ahead?” was the blunt headline of a New Yorker magazine article this week. “Are We Really Facing a Second Civil War?” posed the headline of a column in Friday’s New York Times. Three retired US generals wrote a recent Washington Post column warning that another coup attempt “could lead to civil war”.

    The mere fact that such notions are entering the public domain shows the once unthinkable has become thinkable, even though some would argue it remains firmly improbable.

    The anxiety is fed by rancour in Washington, where Biden’s desire for bipartisanship has crashed into radicalized Republican opposition. The president’s remarks on Thursday – “I will allow no one to place a dagger at the throat of our democracy” – appeared to acknowledge that there can be no business as usual when one of America’s major parties has embraced authoritarianism.

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    Naaa. It isn’t Ken. What we are seeing is part yellow dog journalism, on both sides to be fair, though I would agree that the Right has the far bigger and potentially violent extremism problem.

    Those are mostly the highly motivated number of cable news junkies who haven’t educated themselves on political science and philosophy and are thus more susceptible to persuasion. Then you have the very vocal single issue proponents plus the standard middle class true believers. Add them up and it’s a pretty large number but compared to the rest of the population
    Their a small minority.

    Then go to town and walk around the popular areas for shops and restaurants and entertainment venues and tell me this looks like the kind of people who want to fight a civil war. It would be insane. You would be talking tens of millions of lives ended and even more ruined. Hard economic times for decades assuming there even is a recovery and the absolute destruction of infrastructure and property, both public and private) beyond imagining. That’s not a people I see.

    What I see though is a perceived economic inequality in the rural/small town regions and with our working class. Our nation is being radicalized by poverty and irresponsible politicians exploiting those circumstances by playing on the extremes and using populist rhetoric irresponsibly. The politicians need to be brought in check by those who don’t want violence which is by far the majority.

    Address the inequality issue and discipline the politicians and you solve the problem or eventually the pitchforks would come out though by then you’d probably have a Revolution.

    I doubt it goes that far.

    To reassure you just do some reading of primary source documents from about five years before and during the Civil War. Compare the difference in the newspapers from the different regions of that period. The rancor and acrimony was far greater not just in the media but a personal level out on the streets.

    It’s not nearly as bad as then and people now are far more educated about the consequences having experienced a Civil War that grew beyond anyone’s comprehension or belief at that time. We are now not that naive.

    The US is not going to have a war over who a better idea of governing. If such a thing were to happen now it would have to be over serious material considerations. Meaning money. That doesn’t happen to be the case right now. I doubt it will. Something will probably break before that happens and it will get fixed. One way or another.
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    If we don't partition peacefully, I don't see how we can avoid civil war

    The only way the United States could exist peacefull in their present form
    is if we have a bloody purge that would make Hitler and Stalin look like a couple of altar boys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Your statement was ignorant and stupid.
    At least he is consistent.

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