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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    They showed us movies in church when I was a child that had the folks that were "Left Behind" and their tribulation. One would not want that.

    I knew, even then, that if the rapture happened, that I would be one of those folks... it actually was quite terrifying.

    One time I came home from school in the springtime... the door was open, the water was running in the kitchen, lights were on everywhere... nobody was home. It took a while for me to calm down.

    Later I found out that the water in our area had been shut off along with the electricity for some upgrade or something. I don't remember the full reason.. I was probably 7, maybe 8. My mother was over at a neighbor's house, and Jesus had not come and took my family from me.
    The rapture doctrine was invented by American evangelicals in the 1830s.

    Rapture doctrine is considered laughable by the Eastern Orthodox church.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    The rapture doctrine was invented by American evangelicals in the 1830s.

    Rapture doctrine is considered laughable by the Eastern Orthodox church.
    I was mostly terrified because even then I knew I did not believe. It was a struggle getting past some of the ingrained responses and impressions that you are given as a member of one of these churches. When I was about 10 I told one of the Youth Pastors I didn't believe.... that was a MISTAKE>....

    Holy moly.

    In some ways I benefited from my mistake though.

    I was signed up for classes in the Bible College, for instance. I learned American Sign Language... (so that I could be forced to translate on Thursday night services). I studied the bible in Greek and Hebrew... I was forced onto the Israeli Dance team, the Art Ministry, and Prison Ministry (I used ASL there too to translate for the folks trying to convert the prisoners). Almost 100% of my life was at that danged building being forced to say and act as if I believed.

    However by the time I was 18 I was so frickin' angry at what happened that I believed at that time I would never forgive. Thankfully I was wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Somebody should research to see which board members stopped posting after 23 October 2017.

    Maybe we are living in the tribulation and just don't realize it yet?
    I hope not because I was planning on picking up a nice truck, maybe some free alcohol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Somebody should research to see which board members stopped posting after 23 October 2017.

    Maybe we are living in the tribulation and just don't realize it yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    I was mostly terrified because even then I knew I did not believe. It was a struggle getting past some of the ingrained responses and impressions that you are given as a member of one of these churches. When I was about 10 I told one of the Youth Pastors I didn't believe.... that was a MISTAKE>....

    Holy moly.

    In some ways I benefited from my mistake though.

    I was signed up for classes in the Bible College, for instance. I learned American Sign Language... (so that I could be forced to translate on Thursday night services). I studied the bible in Greek and Hebrew... I was forced onto the Israeli Dance team, the Art Ministry, and Prison Ministry (I used ASL there too to translate for the folks trying to convert the prisoners). Almost 100% of my life was at that danged building being forced to say and act as if I believed.

    However by the time I was 18 I was so frickin' angry at what happened that I believed at that time I would never forgive. Thankfully I was wrong.
    I think teaching children all that rapture and fire and brimstone stuff is just wrong.

    I don't even think it is good Christian theology. It is mostly just practiced by conservative Protestant evangelicals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    I think teaching children all that rapture and fire and brimstone stuff is just wrong.

    I don't even think it is good Christian Theology. It is mostly just practiced by conservative Protestant evangelicals.
    What I came to understand is they are trying to engrain it into your soul so that you will stay saved. I get it, my mother didn't want me in Hell... and if she is right that is where I will go because I just can't get my "soul" to believe it. I know that, for me, if you try to force it, it just makes it worse. I would spend hours arguing with the fam... It was unpleasant, it was "wrong" in a way but showed they cared in another.

    Yeah, using fear to imprint a religion on a child is wrong. I just remembered and did not do the same thing to my children.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    What I came to understand is they are trying to engrain it into your soul so that you will stay saved. I get it, my mother didn't want me in Hell... and if she is right that is where I will go because I just can't get my "soul" to believe it. I know that, for me, if you try to force it, it just makes it worse. I would spend hours arguing with the fam... It was unpleasant, it was "wrong" in a way but showed they cared in another.

    Yeah, using fear to imprint a religion on a child is wrong. I just remembered and did not do the same thing to my children.
    That is why I created my thread about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    What I came to understand is they are trying to engrain it into your soul so that you will stay saved. I get it, my mother didn't want me in Hell... and if she is right that is where I will go because I just can't get my "soul" to believe it. I know that, for me, if you try to force it, it just makes it worse. I would spend hours arguing with the fam... It was unpleasant, it was "wrong" in a way but showed they cared in another.

    Yeah, using fear to imprint a religion on a child is wrong. I just remembered and did not do the same thing to my children.
    We barely understand life, it is hubris for anyone to claim they understand death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Wow, ok. You really are obsessed with religion.
    You have some substantial work to do on improving your skills of observation and deduction.

    I scanned the last six paged of threads I have posted, and only 18/156 = 0.115 = 11 percent had anything to do with religion.

    And about half of those that did were actually mocking fundamentalist christians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    This message board has the distinction of hosting a genuine rapture prediction expert, and I am always curious as to when the next prediction will be unveiled.
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    OMG that was just classic, wasn't it?

    Sister Stench hasn't been around for a while; think she got raptured, or COVIDed again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    What I came to understand is they are trying to engrain it into your soul so that you will stay saved. I get it, my mother didn't want me in Hell... and if she is right that is where I will go because I just can't get my "soul" to believe it. I know that, for me, if you try to force it, it just makes it worse. I would spend hours arguing with the fam... It was unpleasant, it was "wrong" in a way but showed they cared in another.

    Yeah, using fear to imprint a religion on a child is wrong. I just remembered and did not do the same thing to my children.
    Ra-men. Ditto here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    You have some substantial work to do on improving your skills of observation and deduction.

    I scanned the last six paged of threads I have posted, and only 18/156 = 0.115 = 11 percent had anything to do with religion.

    And about half of those that did were actually mocking fundamentalist christians.
    Religion is interesting to learn about and discuss. Isn't that part of the purpose of this forum?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Religion is interesting to learn about and discuss. Isn't that part of the purpose of this forum?
    I think so

    I think I benefit from a basic working knowledge of world religions, and one cannot really separate history, culture, sociology from religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    I think so

    I think I benefit from a basic working knowledge of world religions, and one cannot really separate history, culture, sociology from religion.
    You have interest in Religion, but not in a personal relationship with God.
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