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    Quote Originally Posted by zymurgy View Post
    this is not a surprise. The demographic is hard working, with deep family roots and they care about personal responsibility. It was only a matter of time
    Not a surprise, but early forecasting, it should be a bloc that the GOP appeals to, however, tough getting by that many in the GOP think that these same people
    "bring crime, bring drugs, are rapists, and some are good people"

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    As I said, due to the right’s propagandizing the fabrication that all Democrats are socialists, guarantee if you asked those same individuals if they thought Social Security and Medicare needed to be eliminated because they are based upon socialist ideology most would say no
    Just as Democrats propagandize that all Republicans are racist, you're not really black if you don't vote for a Democrat, Republicans are going to eliminate your S.S. and Medicare etc. That's how politics works, yes you sell yourself but focus even more on demonizing your opposition.

    Nothing wrong with you calling out Republicans but it's a two way street.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Just as Democrats propagandize that all Republicans are racist, you're not really black if you don't vote for a Democrat, Republicans are going to eliminate your S.S. and Medicare etc. That's how politics works, yes you sell yourself but focus even more on demonizing your opposition.

    Nothing wrong with you calling out Republicans but it's a two way street.
    I can't say I recall any Democrat candidate running on the theme that all Republicans are racist, and if one does campaign on the issue that Government programs are socialistic and need to be eliminated, how dishonest is it to imply that also includes SS and Medicare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Not a surprise, but early forecasting, it should be a bloc that the GOP appeals to, however, tough getting by that many in the GOP think that these same people
    "bring crime, bring drugs, are rapists, and some are good people"
    do you ever stop with the activism and grandstanding? insufferable is the best way to describe you

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    I can't say I recall any Democrat candidate running on the theme that all Republicans are racist, and if one does campaign on the issue that Government programs are socialistic and need to be eliminated, how dishonest is it to imply that also includes SS and Medicare.
    If you pay even a modicum of attention to politics you are aware that Democrats attempt to paint Republicans as the party of racism (and white supremacy). Hence all the derogatory terms for any minorities who vote Republican. Maybe you believe it, and think that of minority Republican voters, and thus don't think it propaganda or demonization but it's just reality either way.

    Socialism is more than just S.S. and Medicare. You're conflating a couple of different points here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    If you pay even a modicum of attention to politics you are aware that Democrats attempt to paint Republicans as the party of racism (and white supremacy). Hence all the derogatory terms for any minorities who vote Republican. Maybe you believe it, and think that of minority Republican voters, and thus don't think it propaganda or demonization but it's just reality either way.

    Socialism is more than just S.S. and Medicare. You're conflating a couple of different points here.
    You are generalizing now, yes, many view the GOP as the party containing racist individuals, but, as I said, can't recall any Democrat running labeling all Republicans racists, and the opposite isn't true, Republicans characterize all Democrats as socialists

    And they are not two different ideas, socialism implies government run social programs paid out to the general fund, which both SS and Medicare are, how are they conflating

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    If you pay even a modicum of attention to politics you are aware that Democrats attempt to paint Republicans as the party of racism (and white supremacy). Hence all the derogatory terms for any minorities who vote Republican. Maybe you believe it, and think that of minority Republican voters, and thus don't think it propaganda or demonization but it's just reality either way.

    Socialism is more than just S.S. and Medicare. You're conflating a couple of different points here.
    And to date, nothing on the USC basketball team, I do believe they don't catch Arizona nor UCLA till next month, but been a long time since a Trojan BB team drew so much recognition, nice to see the West Coast offer competitive basketball, gives us on the East Coast something to watch later at night

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    And I forget, don't get you hopes up, the football team ain't reaching that plateau

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    And to date, nothing on the USC basketball team, I do believe they don't catch Arizona nor UCLA till next month, but been a long time since a Trojan BB team drew so much recognition, nice to see the West Coast offer competitive basketball, gives us on the East Coast something to watch later at night
    If you count Arizona as being on the West Coast you have three PAC 12 teams in the top 8 and counting Gonzaga 4 of the top 8 are on the West Coast. Exciting times.

    USC is so interesting this year because we likely have no 1st round pick on the team. A lot of talent and great depth but no superstar. The last couple of games have been postponed or cancelled due to COVID so we haven't played in awhile.

    (I don't know if you follow the NBA but Evan Mobley has been a beast for Cleveland and is the early front runner for ROY)

    Even though we are undefeated we still haven't played a truly top ranked team yet so as you stated, how we fare against UCLA and Arizona will tell us a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    And I forget, don't get you hopes up, the football team ain't reaching that plateau
    Caleb Williams of OU just announced he's entering the transfer portal today. The combination of transfer portal (and immediate eligibility) and the NIL has completely changed college football in the blink of an eye. Texas A&M is looking like they may have the highest rated recruiting class of all time. I was just emailing with my big A&M booster buddy and he flat our said we (A&M) have the NIL game nailed.

    Riley got five five stars to commit within his first couple of weeks here. Patience young Jedi. We'll be back in two years.

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    True that. The queens of "what have you done for me lately" meeting the withdrawn kings of "what have you done for me lately." Will not go well with the homos who no longer have a narcotic bargaining chip to work with. Expect dope prices to soar to record highs. Lol. I see whole graveyards of celebrities in the near future. Thats only assuming if anyone even bothers to bury them. Get your seats at betty ford while u still can, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    If you count Arizona as being on the West Coast you have three PAC 12 teams in the top 8 and counting Gonzaga 4 of the top 8 are on the West Coast. Exciting times.

    USC is so interesting this year because we likely have no 1st round pick on the team. A lot of talent and great depth but no superstar. The last couple of games have been postponed or cancelled due to COVID so we haven't played in awhile.

    (I don't know if you follow the NBA but Evan Mobley has been a beast for Cleveland and is the early front runner for ROY)

    Even though we are undefeated we still haven't played a truly top ranked team yet so as you stated, how we fare against UCLA and Arizona will tell us a lot.
    Technically, we all know Arizona is not on the West Coast, but they certainly fully identified with West Coast sports, have they not been in the PAC 12 for close to a half century now? And Gonzaga is on the West Coast, but they aren't noteworthy for the basketball they play on the West Coast, and, out of curiosity, why don't teams from the PAC 12 ever schedule Gonzaga, seemingly everyone and anyone nationwide is willing to play them?

    And you can go into all the narratives about recruiting and such but bottom line USC is never going to climb that high again, two years or ten years, just ain't happening, when the transfer rules and NIL appear to bring any kind of equity, the usual half dozen or so will escalate their efforts, as we know, they aren't going to let any rules or regulations get in the way. Even the expansion of the football playoffs, which will be another mistake, won't help them

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Technically, we all know Arizona is not on the West Coast, but they certainly fully identified with West Coast sports, have they not been in the PAC 12 for close to a half century now? And Gonzaga is on the West Coast, but they aren't noteworthy for the basketball they play on the West Coast, and, out of curiosity, why don't teams from the PAC 12 ever schedule Gonzaga, seemingly everyone and anyone nationwide is willing to play them?

    And you can go into all the narratives about recruiting and such but bottom line USC is never going to climb that high again, two years or ten years, just ain't happening, when the transfer rules and NIL appear to bring any kind of equity, the usual half dozen or so will escalate their efforts, as we know, they aren't going to let any rules or regulations get in the way. Even the expansion of the football playoffs, which will be another mistake, won't help them
    Gonzaga played Washington and UCLA this year. They've regularly played Washington and Washington St in the past. Arizona and Gonzaga have played numerous times over the past decade.

    You have PTSD regarding USC football based on the Helton years. It's ok, so do many others. If you don't follow the team its understandable you wouldn't see all that's currently going on, thus your belief we can't compete based on the past decade. This is going to be fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    As I said, due to the right’s propagandizing the fabrication that all Democrats are socialists, guarantee if you asked those same individuals if they thought Social Security and Medicare needed to be eliminated because they are based upon socialist ideology most would say no
    social security and Medicare are well established programs.
    next you are going to tell me the Interstate Highways system is "socialist"

    Socialist is cradle to grave government money - free tuition, child care payments, gross extension of unemployment without having to look for work. That's what Hispanics dont want. Progressive noise

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    Layered on those differences, and the fact that many Hispanics are pro-life Catholics, is that the Democrats’ culture-war messaging is turning these voters off. Ruy Teixeira, a political scientist who has studied emerging trends in the Hispanic electorate, wrote in “The Liberal Patriot” that these voters do “not harbor particularly radical views on the nature of American society and its supposed intrinsic racism and white supremacy. They are instead a patriotic, upwardly mobile, working class group with quite practical and down to earth concerns.”
    Throw in Hispanic thinking on Machismo, and you get a group that is predominately anti-LGBTPDQRSTUV as well. They don't buy the whole 'gender fluidity' thing and when it gets pushed on their kids at school they're going to get hot about that too. They're also big on family, another thing the Left wants to for all intents end. In fact, just about everything the Left is pushing is something Hispanics don't like.

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