Since the right ,by a majority, support Trump and Jan 6 and the acts of treason, sedition and subversive activity . We have traitors being the majority of the republican party. All three being supported by anyone is in itself guilty of the same treasonous act by law. Every evangelical minister and catholic priest who supports this are also as guilty and that include many. You can't make a complete lie the excuse for any attack on our government. Which is the best they can do.
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Damocles (01-06-2022), Grumpy (01-08-2022), Into the Night (01-03-2022), Matt Dillon (01-06-2022)
We get your point that those people who support(ed) January 6 are not patriots and those involved in the illegal activities committed crimes. But legally you are completely wrong.
So far, nobody has been charged with subversion or sedition and it is unlikely they are guilty of those crimes. Certainly nobody committed treason which requires giving aid and comfort to the enemy during the time of war.
Nobody who supports them but did not participate is not guilty of anything. You are trying to stretch your point way too far.
18 U.S. Code § 2385 - Advocating overthrow of Government
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Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government; or
Whoever, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts to do so; or
Whoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.
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Read the court decisions surrounding these laws. "Advocating" is pure speech and is protected. A person must actually take some illegal action toward accomplishing these goals to violate the law. We are free do advocate anything.
This has been discussed several times in this forum and we established it is very difficult to charge a person with these crimes. Nobody advocated overthrowing the government and nobody overthrew the government. Nobody has been charged with this crime who is being prosecuted for the January 6 riots. There have been a few conspiracy charges but only for the Proud Boys who did some advance planning.
There is nothing in this law that would apply to supporters of Jan 6 who did not actually participate.
There is nothing in this law regarding treason.
Matt Dillon (01-06-2022)
This is a court decision surrounding this premise. Well this court decision says that advocating is chargeable, so try again. Along with the federal government states , many of them (30) during the time of war and not during the time of war. There has been more state charges of treason then federal. #0 states have treason laws and each has it's own definition. The Only restriction would be the constitution and many courts have supported more then just the fine wording of treason that is defined in the constitution .18 U.S. Code § 2381 - Treason
As in 2382. Misprision of treason
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States and having knowledge of the commission of any treason against them, conceals and does not, as soon as may be, disclose and make known the same to the President or to some judge of the United States, or to the governor or to some judge or justice of a particular State, is guilty of misprision of treason and shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than seven years, or both.
Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.
[QUOTE=jbander;4873586]This is a court decision surrounding this premise. QUOTE]
What was the name of the case?
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