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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    The dialectical method, a discourse between two or more people holding different points of view about a subject but wishing to establish the truth through reasoned argumentation.
    Yes, that is Socrates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    The dialectical method, a discourse between two or more people holding different points of view about a subject but wishing to establish the truth through reasoned argumentation.


    Yeah, that's kinda it!

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    When you're Socrates, you dont actually have to care one way or another. You already live like a king. You can prattle away without a care. We're not so lucky. Fk Socrates. Douche bag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    The dialectical method, a discourse between two or more people holding different points of view about a subject but wishing to establish the truth through reasoned argumentation.
    Something you profess to do, at least indirectly here, but never do in actual threads where debate is offered. Your three primary responses in most threads are in no particular order, the insult, the ad hominem, and the red herring (change the subject). It seems you have no actual wish to establish the truth, but rather force those with differing opinions to accept your reality however fallacious it might be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    What Socrates can teach us about the art of civilized arguing
    never answer a question?.....that isn't arguing.....
    Isaiah 6:5
    “Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    When did schools teach by the Socratic method?
    that's all you see in law schools......
    Isaiah 6:5
    “Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gin Saké View Post
    Postmoderns reject objective reality and truth.
    Socrates did not concern himself with reality......
    Isaiah 6:5
    “Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    I see. Who decides what truth is?
    me, fool!......
    Isaiah 6:5
    “Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackcat13th View Post
    When you're Socrates, you dont actually have to care one way or another. You already live like a king. You can prattle away without a care. We're not so lucky. Fk Socrates. Douche bag.
    He's been dead a very long time...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    Socrates did not concern himself with reality......
    Sort of like, say, Marx...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Dillon View Post
    I'm sorry you never had a Socratic education. IMO, you got robbed. I'd be pissed if I was you. You got cheated through no fault of your own.

    I'd be looking for whoever changed that and looking to change it back.
    At best, BidenPresident had a Sophomoric education.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirthinksalot View Post
    At best, BidenPresident had a Sophomoric education.
    Biden had an "athletic" education. That is, one that was basically a fraud to allow for another outcome to occur...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    The dialectic method of teaching has not been widely used in highschool or college undergraduate education since the medieval Christian scholastic universities.
    we used it in my Catholic high school. of course not all the time .
    Lecture hall was presentations. And classroom could be more teacher led instructions

    But a few of the Christian brothers I had would get us to interact and "teach ourselves" by the SM
    of course moderated by the teacher when we went off tangent
    It was the best thing I ever practiced. It made me think logically and inquisitively at the same time

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    The instruction of the Kalamas (Kalama Sutta) is justly famous for its encouragement of free inquiry;
    the spirit of the sutta signifies a teaching that is exempt from fanaticism, bigotry, dogmatism, and intolerance.
    https://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/.../wheel008.html
    "Come, Kalamas. Do not go upon what has been acquired by repeated hearing; nor upon tradition; nor upon rumor; nor upon what is in a scripture; nor upon surmise; nor upon an axiom; nor upon specious reasoning; nor upon a bias towards a notion that has been pondered over; nor upon another's seeming ability; nor upon the consideration, 'The monk is our teacher.'
    Kalamas, when you yourselves know: 'These things are good; these things are not blamable; these things are praised by the wise; undertaken and observed, these things lead to benefit and happiness,' enter on and abide in them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    This is his “meditation” on liberal education, meaning “education not for making a living but for living meaningfully.” He joins the century-old criticism of the scientific and vocational focus of research universities that are preoccupied with “the production and accumulation of new knowledge” rather than “the cultivation of whole persons.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...-how-to-argue/
    You're a fucktard and stop abusing Socrates to try to make yourself look smart.
    Don't be afraid to see what you see

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