Is the West Becoming Pagan Again?

[BidenPresident]

This year, at the height of what used to be called the Christmas season, a Pew Research Center poll on religion revealed that only slightly more Americans described themselves as Roman Catholics (21 percent) than as believers in “nothing in particular” (20 percent). The millennial generation, which includes most adult Americans under 40, is the first one in which Christians are a minority.

Ms. Delsol is quite clear that what is ending is not the Christian faith, with its rites and dogmas, but only Christian culture — the way Christian societies are governed and the art, philosophy and lore that have arisen under Christianity’s influence.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/29/o...nism-woke.html

[BidenPresident]

Christians brought what she calls a “normative inversion” to pagan Rome. That is, they prized much that the Romans held in contempt and condemned much that the Romans prized, particularly in matters related to sex and family. Today the Christian overlay on Western cultural life is being removed, revealing a lot of pagan urges that it covered up.

To state Ms. Delsol’s argument crudely, what is happening today is an undoing, but it is also a redoing. We are inverting the normative inversion. We are repaganizing.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/29/o...nism-woke.html

[Grumpy]

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Yes ... it is being reported that folks say that humans are being sacrificed to make the sun come up ... anyway ... dats wut i hered.

[ThatOwlWoman]

This year, at the height of what used to be called the Christmas season, a Pew Research Center poll on religion revealed that only slightly more Americans described themselves as Roman Catholics (21 percent) than as believers in “nothing in particular” (20 percent). The millennial generation, which includes most adult Americans under 40, is the first one in which Christians are a minority.

Ms. Delsol is quite clear that what is ending is not the Christian faith, with its rites and dogmas, but only Christian culture — the way Christian societies are governed and the art, philosophy and lore that have arisen under Christianity’s influence.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/29/o...nism-woke.html

I'm surprised that they used the term "pagan," which would indicate a religious belief other than Christianity. Instead, more and more younger ppl are secular and/or atheist/agnostic. I am pagan; that is a belief system of its own and probably not what the author meant to say.

I should probably read the article before further comment. lol

[ThatOwlWoman]

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Yes ... it is being reported that folks say that humans are being sacrificed to make the sun come up ... anyway ... dats wut i hered.

That's so 8,000 BC. Now we worship skyclad, frolic through the fields and meadows celebrating fertility and spring, and enjoy much mead and honey. Come join us!

[BidenPresident]

I'm surprised that they used the term "pagan," which would indicate a religious belief other than Christianity. Instead, more and more younger ppl are secular and/or atheist/agnostic. I am pagan; that is a belief system of its own and probably not what the author meant to say.

I should probably read the article before further comment. lol

"Pagan" usually refers to ancient Roman or Greek culture. It was a term Christians used to say they worshipped the wrong Gods.

[Cypress]

This year, at the height of what used to be called the Christmas season, a Pew Research Center poll on religion revealed that only slightly more Americans described themselves as Roman Catholics (21 percent) than as believers in “nothing in particular” (20 percent). The millennial generation, which includes most adult Americans under 40, is the first one in which Christians are a minority.

Ms. Delsol is quite clear that what is ending is not the Christian faith, with its rites and dogmas, but only Christian culture — the way Christian societies are governed and the art, philosophy and lore that have arisen under Christianity’s influence.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/29/o...nism-woke.html

I do not particularly find the pagan gods of the Greco-Roman world anymore appealing than I find the god as concieved by Jerry Falwell -- and even less so than the god concieved by pope Francis

[BidenPresident]

I do not particularly find the pagan gods of the Greco-Roman world anymore appealing than I find the god as concieved by Jerry Falwell

And I find the God of Christianity equally irrelevant and vulgar.

[BidenPresident]

I do not particularly find the pagan gods of the Greco-Roman world anymore appealing than I find the god as concieved by Jerry Falwell

The article is not about reviving the ancient Gods.

[Melchizedek = Michael]

I'm surprised that they used the term "pagan," which would indicate a religious belief other than Christianity. Instead, more and more younger ppl are secular and/or atheist/agnostic. I am pagan; that is a belief system of its own and probably not what the author meant to say.

I should probably read the article before further comment. lol

The younger generation is ruled by secularism.
And as far as Christians ,probably less than half are really Christians. The rest identify as Christian because their family was,is,Catholic,Lutheran, whatever,without ever thinking about their socalled beliefs at all.
It's exactly what Jesus warned about.
"Many come in my name,but they aren't mine"

[Melchizedek = Michael]

And I find the God of Christianity equally irrelevant and vulgar.

Do you know "the God of Christianity"?

[Cypress]

The article is not about reviving the ancient Gods.

I thought your thread was promoting a return to paganism.

Paganism is a religion(s) which practices polytheism or animism.

I am agnostic about the possibility of multiple gods, and the god of Jupiter never appealed to me

[BidenPresident]

I'm surprised that they used the term "pagan," which would indicate a religious belief other than Christianity. Instead, more and more younger ppl are secular and/or atheist/agnostic. I am pagan; that is a belief system of its own and probably not what the author meant to say.

I should probably read the article before further comment. lol

"When in A.D. 384 Christians succeeded in removing the pagan Altar of Victory from the Roman Senate, where it had stood for almost four centuries, the pagan statesman Symmachus understood that Rome’s tolerance would henceforth be denied to those who had built it. If we know Symmachus for one sentiment today, it is his condemnation of Christianity’s dogmatic claims to truth as an affront against common sense. “There cannot be only one path toward such a great mystery,” he said.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/29/o...nism-woke.html

Paganism is associated with polytheism. One God does not have to dominate. There is not one universal truth for all.

[BidenPresident]

I thought your thread was promoting a return to paganism.

No.

[Blackwater Lunchbreak]

This year, at the height of what used to be called the Christmas season, a Pew Research Center poll on religion revealed that only slightly more Americans described themselves as Roman Catholics (21 percent) than as believers in “nothing in particular” (20 percent). The millennial generation, which includes most adult Americans under 40, is the first one in which Christians are a minority.

Ms. Delsol is quite clear that what is ending is not the Christian faith, with its rites and dogmas, but only Christian culture — the way Christian societies are governed and the art, philosophy and lore that have arisen under Christianity’s influence.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/29/o...nism-woke.html

actually it's opposite.

basic moral values are the backdrop of social stability, they're on the upswing.

the pedo church and its rites and dogmas have never been christian.