When religious leaders across the country choose to be on the side of liars, cheats, racists, and anti-democracy thugs- I lose respect for religions.
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When religious leaders across the country choose to be on the side of liars, cheats, racists, and anti-democracy thugs- I lose respect for religions.
Last edited by Geeko Sportivo; 12-12-2021 at 11:53 AM.
PoliTalker (12-13-2021)
sometimes.
The devout Hindu Ghandi,
the devout Baptist Martin Luther King,
the devout Christian Nelson Mandela,
The devout Christian Loyd Harrison,
the Buddhist Sidartha Guatauma
collectively seem to indicate your blanket characterization is meritless.
The noted atheist Joseph Stalin arguably enslaved the most people in human history
If you won't allow religious people to dissociate themselves from Al Qaeda and the Spanish Inquisition, then you as an atheist own the crimes of prominent atheist leaders Joseph Stalin, Vladimir Lenin, Mao, Pol Pot the leaders of the French Revolution's Great Terror.
Wolverine (12-13-2021)
Silly and unworthy of debate.
One good thing about Soviet atheism is it made divorce available to women, who previously had been trapped in abusive marriages by the patriarchy of the Orthodox religious tradition.
Under the Soviet State, you could basically just unilaterally fill out a post card and get a divorce from the civil authorities.
A lot of drunk, violent men found themselves quickly divorced in the 1920s.
Wrapping up: the premminent Soviet physicist Andrei Sakraov had a healthy outlook on religion. He did not subscribe to any faith tradition, but he felt there was a guiding principle to the universe which went beyond physical laws.
"For me all the religions are equal; I have no affinity to any of them. For me God is not the ruler of the world, not the creator of the world or its laws, but the guarantor of the meaning of existence—despite all the apparent meaninglessness".- Andrei Sakraov
Last edited by Cypress; 12-12-2021 at 02:56 PM. Reason: Grammar
I am pretty sure I am one of the very few true agnostics on this forum -- I do not join any teams, I do not take sides, and I think critically and deliberately equally about religions and about atheist traditions.
I congratulate you for being able to boil the human condition down to a simplistic, black-and-white universal perspective: everything about religion is terrible, and everything about atheism and materialism is wonderful.
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