January 6 was practice. Donald Trump’s GOP is much better positioned to subvert the next election.
Who or what will safeguard our constitutional order is not apparent today. It is not even apparent who will try. Democrats, big and small D, are not behaving as if they believe the threat is real. Some of them, including President Joe Biden, have taken passing rhetorical notice, but their attention wanders. They are making a grievous mistake.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...ection/620843/
Callinectes (12-06-2021), Matt Dillon (12-06-2021)
You sound paranoid.
Trump is nothing.
It's people like you you keep freaking out about him who fire him and his MAGAhats up.
Trump is NOT going to run in 2024....unless he admits that the election was not fixed.
Because his smarter people know he cannot win if he doesn't do that.
And he will NEVER do that.
Because without that?
The indy's will NOT vote for him again.
Guaranteed.
And NO POTUS can win without the Indy's.
martin (12-06-2021)
Well... I DO have an asshole.
But you obviously have NO IDEA what a 'troll' actually is.
Your reply to me was a HELL of a lot more trollish than mine was to you.
Anyway...
Trump is nothing.
It's people like you you keep freaking out about him who fire him and his MAGAhats up.
Trump is NOT going to run in 2024....unless he admits that the election was not fixed.
Because his smarter people know he cannot win if he doesn't do that.
And he will NEVER do that.
Because without that?
The indy's will NOT vote for him again.
Guaranteed.
And NO POTUS can win without the Indy's.
And Jan. 6 was NOT a coup.
coup (ko͞o)
n. pl. coups (ko͞oz)
1. A brilliantly executed stratagem; a triumph.
2.
a. A coup d'état.
b. A sudden appropriation of leadership or power; a takeover: a boardroom coup.
https://www.thefreedictionary.com/coup
Even if you call what January 6 was, was a insurrection (which I do not. I think it was a bunch of utter MORONS who got drunk and ran up to the Capital with no idea what they were going to do. Then the PATHETIC security was so weak that they easily broke through it. They went inside, walked around, acted like the idiots that they are, took a bunch of selfies - incriminating themselves, proving just how dumb they were - and went home.
I call it a moron convention that got out of hand.
It was NOT a coup.
At most?
It was an 'attempted coup'.
Doesn't ANYONE on chat forums know what a dictionary is?
Matt Dillon (12-06-2021)
He's not all wrong, with the recent wave of "election reforms," and particularly changes to authorizing election returns, the very hurdles that Trump couldn't get over in 2020 have been removed, seems more than just coincidentally
Trump is right now running for election in 2024, his orchestrated control of the GOP almost guarantees his selection as their candidate, those "smarter people" you are talking about do not exist in the GOP, everything goes thru Trump
Add the two together and you have to admit "BidenPresident" isn't all wrong
“The Communist party must control the guns.”
― Mao Tse-tung
“Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything.”-Generally attributed to Uncle Joe Stalin
“Everything under heaven is in utter choas; the situation is excellent.”
― mao tse-tung
Sorry...I do not buy for one second that he is seriously, thinking about running.
He is just going to tease everyone to keep his name in the 'headlines'.
That's all.
And everything does NOT go through Trump.
If you read the book: Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House?
You will see that Trump did NOT run his election campaign.
Steve Bannon RAN that campaign.
And Bannon saved Trump's neck after the 'grab the pussy disaster'.
Trump was going to quit.
But Bannon talked him out of it.
Unless Trump is winning the polls IN 2023 (now means nothing).
He won't run.
And unless he admits the 2020 election was not a fraud (or tones down the rhetoric on it BIG TIME like saying 'it is behind us now. Let's move on')?
He cannot win because the indy's lost too much respect for him from that 'election fraud silliness'.
Hell...he never won the popular vote even BEFORE the election fraud silliness.
And he (or Biden) cannot win without the indy's.
And even Trump knows that.
Credible argument. Another reason he may not run is fear of losing a second time. He covered the first loss as best he could. He saw the loss coming - all the polls, even Rasmussen, predicted it, so he began the lie before election day, saying fraud was the only way he could lose. Yup, even though Biden was killing him in the polls, Biden couldn't win. Almost half the country swallowed the big lie. But how well is the lie wearing with no hard evidence after all this time and oodles of evidence against it. Trump's ego won't tolerate a Bob Dole experience. Unless he has a big lead in the polls well in advance of the primaries, he'll stay out of it.
Last edited by martin; 12-06-2021 at 05:06 PM.
"Give pearls away and rubies but keep your fancy free."
Not talking about winning, rather that he will be the GOP candidate, and he certainly thinks he can win, especially given all the "reforms" mentioned above. Who do you think who is going to cross him and mount a primary? Better yet, who is going to back that primary candidate knowing the wrath of Trump and his influence on the base?
Trump might know it, but he will never recognize it, not in his shtick, the only thing that would keep Trump from the nomination is if one of the litigations or opened legal investigations reveals something even the right wing media can not cover up nor defend,
Oh come on now?
The Georgia dudes were Reps.
And they would not budge.
They were clearly trying real hard to PRETEND that they were taking him seriously.
You could hear it.
And that is when he was POTUS.
How on EARTH would he be in a better position with NO actual power?
If you are expecting me to take that assertion seriously?
You are going to have to back it up with evidence from unbiased links.
Because, no offense, that sounds EXTREMELY unrealistic.
You keep talking about Trump like you know him.
Yet you offer NO EVIDENCE AT ALL of what you are saying.
Again, Fire and Fury has been backed up by several Trumpbots? He WAS going to quit before Bannon talked him out of it and brilliantly turned the tables on Hillary.
You are giving credit to Trump for things without any evidence to back it up.
Why on Earth would Donald Trump run for election is he is not winning the polls AGAINST the Dem candidate in 2023?
How would it help his 'brand' if he gets killed in the election?
Sorry man...none of what you are saying makes sense.
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