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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    States Rights worked out so well before.
    Yes they have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Yeah, we know, you say that all the time, the Court isn't changing the Constitution, only interpreting it,
    They do not have the authority to.
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    and don't respond with they don't have the authority to do that, seen that one also,
    Then pay attention. The Supreme Court has no authority to interpret or change the Constitution. You keep making this mistake. You have never read the Constitution.
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    the reality is that the Constitution in essence is nothing more than a five page document on paper,
    WRONG. It is the document that defines and declares the government of the United States, giving it specific powers and authority and NOTHING ELSE.
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    men have had to apply it,
    No. the only 'application' is to create said government with it's specific powers and authority.
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    didn't you ever notice such as the military draft or interstate highways aren't anywhere in the Constitution yet they exist today
    The draft is not. the interstate highways are. See Article I, $8. The draft does not exist today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Maybe, but I listened to the oral arguments and don't know why we think they are about to make that decision.

    States can already regulate abortion after the 1st trimester and prohibit it after the 2nd.

    I don't know why Clarence Thomas would change his mind by the oral arguments. If he is doing his job he has already read the briefs that contain the oral argument(s). Asking too many questions just takes the lawyers away from their main point(s).
    It is homicide, regardless of the trimester. Every State has authority to determine laws for homicide.
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    States' rights work out to become the country of the lowest common denominator. When Delaware and S.C removed usury and banking regulations, banks established offices there. That way the state laws could infect the entire country. We all lost power over banks when that happened. Banks are setting the table nationally by phony offices in select states.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    States led the way for much progressive legislation. Some of it was used by the courts in expanding those policies to the entire nation.

    Gay marriage, integration, the right to an attorney, abortion, gun regulations, term limits, healthcare, etc. all started at the state level and spread to more states or eventually to the national level.
    No State court has authority over any other State. The Supreme Court has no authority to change the Constitution. No State court has authority to change the Constitution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Federal Government gives Tax Breaks to 'married' people. (can you connect the dots?)
    Unconstitutional. See Article I and the 14th amendment
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Yeah, if you say so.
    I don't. The Constitution says so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Well, it was different when it came to Bush v. Gore.
    Non-sequitur fallacy. Apparently you can stay on topic, not even domer's topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Let's cut to the chase. The Jesus Freaks want to overturn Roe v. Wade. Who will win?
    The Supreme Court has no authority to change the Constitution.
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    The current Supreme Court is as good an indicator as any that the United States are pretty much fucked as a unified country.

    Elect pachy presidents, get pachy SCOTUS appoinments, flush nation down toilet. It's as simple as that. And we've now done it.

    America will never get back on track unless a Democratic President unilaterally disbands the sitting SCOTUS and installs one of his own choice.

    You don't get anything done just be fucking around, Sleepy Joe.

    If the Red States wish to secede, give them our blessing. They only drag the rest of us down.
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    Religion....is the opiate of the people. Karl Marx, 1848

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Unconstitutional. See Article I and the 14th amendment
    You should contact your Representative about this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    The Supreme Court has no authority to change the Constitution.
    I believe the word used is 'interpret'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    Those movements may have begun at the state level, but that’s not what I was referring to as “States Rights”. States Rights were national guard and the governor at the University of Alabama. University of Mississippi. Poll taxes. Different drinking fountains.

    And, as your post indicates, states don’t have rights. People do
    His post is wrong. You're agreeing with it and embellishing it is also wrong.

    The National Guard is not a State militia of any State. It is the national militia.
    Poll taxes are unconstitutional. No State has any authority to charge poll taxes.

    States have rights.
    They have the right to defend themselves by organizing a State militia.
    They have the right to exist as a State, having been accepted by the Congress into the Union.
    They have the right to construct their own government as they see fit, so long as it is a republic.
    They have the right to establish laws withing their own borders, according to that constitution.
    They have the right to lay taxes, according to that constitution.
    They have the right to establish roads and ways, according to that constitution.
    They have the right to determine penalties for homicide (including abortion), assaults, arson, etc. according to that constitution.
    They have the right to establish courts and those courts have the right to make rulings, according to that constitution, and according to the Constitution of the United States.

    People also have rights. Among them:

    They have the right to defend themselves.
    They have the right to be productive members of society (the right of capitalism).
    They have the right to obtain food, water, and shelter for themselves. Note the State may have the right to regulate the procedure and form thereof, in accordance to it's constitution.
    They have the right to form the government of their choice, even if they have to leave the Union to do it. Note that to be in a State, in other words, part of the Union of the United States, they must make that government a republic.
    The right to believe in what you wish (religion).
    The right to speak out against the government, even in places like China, even if the government kills you for it.
    The right to communicate with others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    That is one unfortunate example of states' right. All the other examples I used would be considered progressive.

    States don't have rights, but they have powers to make those decisions.
    States have rights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    States' rights work out to become the country of the lowest common denominator. When Delaware and S.C removed usury and banking regulations, banks established offices there. That way the state laws could infect the entire country. We all lost power over banks when that happened. Banks are setting the table nationally by phony offices in select states.
    Nothing about Delaware's laws affect any usury laws in any State a bank does business in. Delaware cannot pass any law for any other State. Just for Delaware.

    If a bank establishes a head office in Delaware, and conducts business in, say Washington, they are subject to the usury and banking laws of Washington, not Delaware.
    Some States do enforce their banking laws and usury laws in exactly this way. Others do not, including, unfortunately, Washington.
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