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    Default Property taxes make you property of the Government?

    How are we full property owners if we pay property tax!?

    BTW. Property tax is added to the cost of rents too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyszardKuklinski View Post
    How are we full property owners if we pay property tax!?

    BTW. Property tax is added to the cost of rents too.
    I own products I buy although I pay a sales tax on them. I own the income I make although I pay an income tax. I own my home although I pay a property tax. I am the full property owner because I can sell my house at market value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    I own products I buy although I pay a sales tax on them. I own the income I make although I pay an income tax. I own my home although I pay a property tax. I am the full property owner because I can sell my house at market value.
    If you don't pay your property taxes see how long you last!

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    Property taxes are a pain in the ass.
    Who the hell needs, schools, cops, firefighters, streets and sidewalks (does red state America know about sidewalks?), parks, playgrounds, and if you live in a civilized place, trash pickup?
    Patriotism is the last refuge of a a scoundrel. Samuel Johnson, 1775
    Religion....is the opiate of the people. Karl Marx, 1848

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    I own products I buy although I pay a sales tax on them. I own the income I make although I pay an income tax. I own my home although I pay a property tax. I am the full property owner because I can sell my house at market value.
    Miss paying your property taxes and see what happens...

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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    Property taxes are a pain in the ass.
    Who the hell needs, schools, cops, firefighters, streets and sidewalks (does red state America know about sidewalks?), parks, playgrounds, and if you live in a civilized place, trash pickup?
    Didn't deny that taxes are the basis of civilization.

    Just that there are other ways to pay for the tab.
    Like upping taxes on tobacco, luxury cars, alcohol, marijuana products, yahts
    Not
    To mention taxes on millionaires income.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyszardKuklinski View Post
    If you don't pay your property taxes see how long you last!
    Property taxes are a tax deduction.
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    Property taxes are a pain in the ass.
    Who the hell needs, schools, cops, firefighters, streets and sidewalks (does red state America know about sidewalks?), parks, playgrounds, and if you live in a civilized place, trash pickup?
    A fallacy of exclusive premises. That is, one doesn't result in the other necessarily. All of what you list can be paid for in other ways than property tax. There are countries that don't have property taxes.

    https://www.globalfromasia.com/tax-f...rab%20Emirates

    In many rural areas, firefighting and things like ambulance service are paid by subscription not property tax. Trash pick up is done the same way. Parks and playgrounds are rarely paid for by property tax but rather come out of general revenue from sales taxes. Schools in most locales are the primary recipient of property tax but could be paid for by other taxes or subscription too.

    I find, in particular, property tax on a primary personal residence onerous and unnecessary. Sure, tax commercial property, second and third homes, but a primary residence should be owned tax free. That means once you pay for it you owe nobody anything and it's yours forever. That would be the right thing to do. That would turn America into a country of owners of their own homes and people could get away from having to pay rent or being homeless. But the Left in particular, doesn't want you to be an owner. If you were, you'd never vote for them or their Socialist policies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    Property taxes are a tax deduction.
    Property taxes can add a lot to rents too.

    Why is it helpful for the working & lower classes to have less ability to buy property & or pay rents!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyszardKuklinski View Post
    Didn't deny that taxes are the basis of civilization.

    Just that there are other ways to pay for the tab.
    Like upping taxes on tobacco, luxury cars, alcohol, marijuana products, yahts
    Not
    To mention taxes on millionaires income.
    So your solution is to up the taxes on what other people own?
    Pardoning the Bad, is injuring the Good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    Property taxes are a pain in the ass.
    Who the hell needs, schools, cops, firefighters, streets and sidewalks (does red state America know about sidewalks?), parks, playgrounds, and if you live in a civilized place, trash pickup?
    Maybe taxing the sh!t out of legalized abortion is a solution both sides might compromise on!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Miss paying your property taxes and see what happens...
    You do not believe we should have a government that operates on taxes? No defense, no immigration control, no highways? It would not be fair for you to help support those functions while I could refuse to pay my taxes with no penalty.

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    It is an easy observation to make throughout the globe that the most civilized places with the best quality of life are the places that have the highest taxation.
    It's just a fact.
    Patriotism is the last refuge of a a scoundrel. Samuel Johnson, 1775
    Religion....is the opiate of the people. Karl Marx, 1848

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    You do not believe we should have a government that operates on taxes? No defense, no immigration control, no highways? It would not be fair for you to help support those functions while I could refuse to pay my taxes with no penalty.
    Complex question fallacy. Of course, government needs taxes to do stuff. What they don't need necessarily is to tax real estate to get that money. Defense, immigration law, highways are not paid from property taxes now by the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    Property taxes are a pain in the ass.
    Who the hell needs, schools, cops, firefighters, streets and sidewalks (does red state America know about sidewalks?), parks, playgrounds, and if you live in a civilized place, trash pickup?
    In my area property taxes are about 10K A year.

    More than half goes to the schools.

    But, I don't think the difference between 1K or 6K going to schools makes much of a difference.

    A lot of it is also sports spending.

    Besides, many countries with far less school spending do a lot better than the USA on educational PISA scores like China, Japan, Estonia, and Poland.

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