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    ...... on the unvaccinated. In Germany, unvaccinated idiots are now in lockdown. Vaccinations are about to become mandatory. Canada has now banned airline travel for the unvaccinated, and I suspect the US will be right behind them. Because WE ARE SICK OF FUCKING AROUND WITH YOU SELFISH, STUPID MORONS. Done. We have no intention of getting sick, even if it isn't that serious, because you are too fucking stupid to get a shot. Prepare to be denied entry ANYWHERE as this thing starts to spread. The good news.... if you get Covid and recover we might let fly. Maybe.

    Good riddance. Stay the fuck at home or get jabbed. Capiche?

    Vaccinated individuals please discuss your proposals for keeping the unclean masses from infecting us.

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/02/europ...ntl/index.html

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b1967163.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    ...... on the unvaccinated. In Germany, unvaccinated idiots are now in lockdown. Vaccinations are about to become mandatory. Canada has now banned airline travel for the unvaccinated, and I suspect the US will be right behind them. Because WE ARE SICK OF FUCKING AROUND WITH YOU SELFISH, STUPID MORONS. Done. We have no intention of getting sick, even if it isn't that serious, because you are too fucking stupid to get a shot. Prepare to be denied entry ANYWHERE as this thing starts to spread. The good news.... if you get Covid and recover we might let fly. Maybe.

    Good riddance. Stay the fuck at home or get jabbed. Capiche?

    Vaccinated individuals please discuss your proposals for keeping the unclean masses from infecting us.

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/02/europ...ntl/index.html

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b1967163.html
    The totalitarian impulse is strong with you.
    Trust in our leaders is collapsing as people wake up to how profoundly we have been betrayed.

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    It is apparently about the same as having a cold. Are we really panicking about a variant that is essentially a cold? We need to stop the insane fearmongering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    It is apparently about the same as having a cold. Are we really panicking about a variant that is essentially a cold? We need to stop the insane fearmongering.
    The economic cost of the common cold is astronomical. This isn't about panic or fear mongering. It's about not paying the bill for the selfish behavior of the vaccine defiant. And not having them out infecting vaccinated people who will have to use up valuable health care resources. I have no interest in doing that. And this appears to be a common cold that is incredibly infectious. So they can choose to do whatever they want, but it is time to stop letting them infect the rest of us.

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12227674/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    The totalitarian impulse is strong with you.
    Nope. My impulse is to make people accept the consequences of their decisions. Simple as that. Stay the fuck home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    The economic cost of the common cold is astronomical. This isn't about panic or fear mongering. It's about not paying the bill for the selfish behavior of the vaccine defiant. And not having them out infecting vaccinated people who will have to use up valuable health care resources. I have no interest in doing that. And this appears to be a common cold that is incredibly infectious. So they can choose to do whatever they want, but it is time to stop letting them infect the rest of us.

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12227674/
    Better start working on that vaccine for the common cold then. And the one for athlete's feet, they might infect you with that too... So "they" can't infect you anymore, though the vaccinated still spread the disease, and absolutely can infect you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    Better start working on that vaccine for the common cold then. And the one for athlete's feet, they might infect you with that too... So "they" can't infect you anymore, though the vaccinated still spread the disease, and absolutely can infect you.
    Yawn. Nice attempt at trolling. There is no vaccine for the common cold. We accept the economic cost, but make some efforts to mitigate it. The vaccine defiant basically refuse to take any mitigation measures. I expect them to accept the consequences of that decision. Meaning we will isolate them. R0 for the common cold is somewhere between 2 and 3. R0 for the delta variant is between 6 and 7. R0 for Omicron may be 5 times that. A massive common cold outbreak that impacts 10 times more people than the common cold? Sorry. Not interested in paying the price for that. I'll repeat. If you are unvaccinated and refuse to change that, stay the FUCK home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    It is apparently about the same as having a cold. Are we really panicking about a variant that is essentially a cold? We need to stop the insane fearmongering.
    A cold that killed 0ver 700,000 Americans. Hell yes we are talking about it. It is far,far worse than a cold and even has long-haul symptoms for millions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    It is apparently about the same as having a cold. Are we really panicking about a variant that is essentially a cold? We need to stop the insane fearmongering.
    Too soon to tell. The US is losing about a 1000 people a day...currently dropping off a peak of over 2000 from last September's Pandemic of the Unvaccinated.

    Hopefully you are 100% correct that this varient is a mild one. OTOH, it points out the danger that the next one may not be.

    The math is simple. The more cases of COVID, the more chances of mutations. The fewer cases of COVID, the less chances of mutations.

    Vaccinations, social distancing, masks and other common sense procedures minimize infection and spreading the disease as shown in the CDC "Lessons Learned" document below about the 1918 Pandemic which came out in 2007. It's not rocket science.

    From the CDC 2007: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1997248/
    CONCLUSION

    Several factors impede direct comparisons of the two cities' approaches. The cities border each other and residents travel back and forth. Although the containment philosophies differed greatly, in reality St. Paul government officials overruled public health, and schools and public gathering places were closed in both cities for varying lengths of time. Although the effects of isolation vs. closure of public places cannot be specifically determined, other lessons can be learned from what happened in 1918. Many steps could have been taken to prevent illness and save lives. Prior planning, clear orders, as well as consistent and transparent advice and information to the public may have made a significant difference in the number of cases and deaths due to influenza in 1918.

    There was a paucity of planning for a health emergency when influenza first appeared. While the actions that the two city health departments took to stem the spread of influenza align closely with current pandemic plans, health officials had the disadvantage of trying to conceive and realize plans during a health crisis. Many current recommendations were implemented, including the use of masks, the use of vaccines (albeit ineffective ones), increasing the stringency of sanitation measures, limiting crowding in public places, and trying to coordinate hospitals, nurses, physicians, and medical students to maximize resources. As part of maximizing human resources during an influenza pandemic, it is imperative that the safety of health-care workers is insured. The number of nurses and physicians who fell ill and even died as a result of assisting in the fight against the pandemic scared other nurses and physicians away.

    Had these ideas been generated prior to such a large emergency, several problems could have been averted. The debates and disagreements between different public officials and health agencies, as with the Hennepin County School Board and the Minneapolis Health Department or between the Minneapolis Health Department and the St. Paul Health Department, could have been discussed in advance. Supplies could have been stockpiled, business leaders and community members could have provided input on controversial disease containment policies, and medical students could have been put to work in hospitals and communities that lacked physicians. Unfortunately, these disputes arose and continued throughout the pandemic.

    Clear authority and management by public health officials were generally lacking at the federal and state levels. It was almost as if the fear of using their authority led Surgeon General Blue and Dr. Bracken to fail to take decisive action. Surgeon General Blue suggested to Dr. Bracken, and all other state health officials, “the advisability [of] discontinuing all public meetings, closing all schools and places of public amusement on appearance of local outbreaks.”44 Because this was merely a suggestion, and local outbreaks were not defined objectively, Blue's urgent telegram had no effect.

    On the state level, Dr. Bracken acknowledged that the St. Paul Health Department “followed his advice” to not close public places, and went on to say that St. Paul, “has the power to do the opposite any time it wants to.”11 This statement forced local health departments to define their own rules while attempting to decipher conflicting messages from the state and federal level.

    Because clear orders were not being given to public health officials, the public in turn was not receiving transparent and consistent advice and information. Should the public wear masks? Why was it allowable to be next to someone in a streetcar and not in an elevator? Why were church services closed while Red Cross workers gathered in crowded conditions in those very same churches? Was influenza a life-threatening condition, or was panic the most dangerous element of the influenza pandemic? In Minneapolis and St. Paul. there was no single message on any of these issues. In many cases, the public had to decide for itself. In which case, the effect of the messages that were communicated only served to contradict each other.

    In reviewing this history, some lessons stand out. Recent analyses of nonpharmaceutical interventions during 1918 indicate cities in which multiple interventions were implemented early in the pandemic fared better.45 Of primary importance is developing a plan ahead of time that incorporates all levels of government health infrastructure and describes clear lines of responsibilities and roles. Plans for surge capacity and community containment must be discussed with stakeholders and consensus must be achieved.

    Further, general approaches should be put forth for public comment and approval. The public health benefit of isolation should be weighed against the possibility that some people would be discouraged from seeking care. Clear explanations of the reason for isolation, generous employer support, and providing food, medicine, and social service to those in isolation may mitigate fears and increase cooperation. The public must also be educated about the reasoning behind other health measures (i.e., closures), should those methods be implemented.

    Approaches and plans should be based on scientific data whenever possible, and include input from ethicists. Unlike in 1918, a pandemic influenza vaccine will likely be available today, albeit four to six months after the pandemic starts. But similar to 1918, the challenge will be designing an orderly and ethical distribution of a scarce commodity. Further, experts in risk communication should assist in developing messages that are scientifically accurate, understandable, clear, and useful. Finally, we need to take careful note of local and national lessons from the past so we do not repeat them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    Nope. My impulse is to make people accept the consequences of their decisions. Simple as that. Stay the fuck home.
    Bluster talk. You wont do shit. This isnt Germany or Australia. Here we tell the Government what to do and how high to jump. People are awake now. You and your fucked up regime wont do shit,... because they cant, and they know they cant. The reason they have slowed down on the our way or the highway CRAP is because they know they will be out in the street on their collective asses in the very next election if they dont and they sure cant have THAT can they now? Basically Concart,.....you can talk shit all you want,....means absolutely NOTHING.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    A cold that killed 0ver 700,000 Americans. Hell yes we are talking about it. It is far,far worse than a cold and even has long-haul symptoms for millions.
    American data is shit generally, and that died with COVID has so often been claimed by authority to be died because of COVID, a lie, is one of the worst parts.

    BTW: The rest of the world is increasingly ignoring American experts and data, because both are so often of little value.
    Trust in our leaders is collapsing as people wake up to how profoundly we have been betrayed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    Nope. My impulse is to make people accept the consequences of their decisions. Simple as that. Stay the fuck home. what I want or else!

    Yep, you're a totalitarian cunt of a fart.

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    C-19 had a big hand in unfairly ending one Presidency. Now it will QUITE JUSTLY end another Presidency and flip both houses. But go right ahead,....live in fantasy land all you want. In the end it only helps us. Have a nice night.

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    I was just curious what the salt ratio is on that brining of the hammer.

    Judging by the OP, I'd say pretty salty!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    ...... on the unvaccinated. In Germany, unvaccinated idiots are now in lockdown. Vaccinations are about to become mandatory. Canada has now banned airline travel for the unvaccinated, and I suspect the US will be right behind them. Because WE ARE SICK OF FUCKING AROUND WITH YOU SELFISH, STUPID MORONS. Done. We have no intention of getting sick, even if it isn't that serious, because you are too fucking stupid to get a shot. Prepare to be denied entry ANYWHERE as this thing starts to spread. The good news.... if you get Covid and recover we might let fly. Maybe.

    Good riddance. Stay the fuck at home or get jabbed. Capiche?

    Vaccinated individuals please discuss your proposals for keeping the unclean masses from infecting us.

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/02/europ...ntl/index.html

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b1967163.html



    Canfart. Hate to break it to you, but the Plan is to keep ginning up the Trumptopians so they won't get jabbed.
    HELPING TRUMPTOPIANS DIE IS THE PATH TO VICTORY!





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