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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    of course its a balance between two conflicting rights.......what is unbelievable is that the rights of the unborn child to live didn't win........
    I understand that opinion. At least its a logical and legally solid position on the law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    privacy versus life?.......never........life versus life, sure......
    You simply fail to acknowledge that the Supreme Court ruled that an embryo is not an independent "life" in the sense you are describing it until it is viable. Until then it is a part of the host.

    When we see a pregnant woman, we do not say... "You are a mother!" we say, "So exciting, you are going to be a mother.".
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    of course, every right has limits......tell me one that isn't.....
    Many of your ilk will not acknowledge that we sometimes must balance conflicting rights.

    We have the right to bear arms, yet school children have the right not to be murdered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    why do you believe balancing acts must tip always in your favor?......
    I don't, but when my opinion is that it does... then thats my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Eagle View Post
    Yes.
    So.... we have the right to life and that must be balanced with other rights? Correct?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    So.... we have the right to life and that must be balanced with other rights? Correct?
    Our right to pursue happiness is only restricted when it conflicts with the rights of others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Eagle View Post
    Our right to pursue happiness is only restricted when it conflicts with the rights of others.
    I agree, and so there are no absolute rights, correct?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    Whether it is or not, your right to privacy, as noted by others earlier in this thread, does not overcome the specific rights to life, etc. of another.

    Though I would simply argue that the left's urge to push vaccine mandates put lie to their urge to actually have privacy in medical decisions. They only want it to apply when it is something they specifically want politically.
    ~So, are you saying that the right to life superseded all other rights? Because if so, we can discuss more limits on the right to bear arms that result in people dying.
    ~I think Roe reads that the Right to privacy does not supersede the right to life, but that life, for that purpose, begins at viability.
    ~I think many would argue that taking a vaccine is so much less intrusive than Pregnancy the calculation of the balance compared to how many lives a mandate would save is an easy one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    I agree, and so there are no absolute rights, correct?
    None that I can think of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    I think its probably too late for him to get the bench widened.
    Biden placated the far left by refusing to totally dismiss the idea, but it was clear to me he was always against it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Eagle View Post
    None that I can think of.
    We agree, so the right to bear arms? Kids are dying in kids because other kids are getting access to very sophisticated killing machines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    1) Murder is not illegal, but abortion is.
    2) Morals can come from a place other than the Bible, unless you are a total degenerate.
    3) So you are saying it was the LAW that made Rittenhouse not-guilty of murder, even though he killed two people?
    Self defense is not murder! Abortion is not self defense! Morals come from an innate knowledge of God, so even though you do not believe, the ability to decide right and wrong is still there, because God put it there, it doesn't matter whether you believe that or not! Tell me another place Morals can come from!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    We agree, so the right to bear arms? Kids are dying in kids because other kids are getting access to very sophisticated killing machines.
    Rocks, and sticks, have been around forever!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    You simply fail to acknowledge that the Supreme Court ruled that an embryo is not an independent "life" in the sense you are describing it until it is viable. Until then it is a part of the host.

    When we see a pregnant woman, we do not say... "You are a mother!" we say, "So exciting, you are going to be a mother.".
    The Supreme court made a huge mistake based on lies by the attorneys presenting the case, they manipulated the judges emotions!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolverine View Post
    Rocks, and sticks, have been around forever!
    It's harder to kill with a rock or a stick than with a bullet.

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