Do Conservatives agree we have rights not mentioned in the Constitution?

[Jarod]

Do you small government types agree we have a right to privacy from the Government regarding our own medical decisions, or does the Government have a right to dictate our medical care if they so choose?

I am not talking about insurance or what they will pay for, I am talking about making decisions with your doctor.

Does the Constitution protect your right to choose Chemotherapy or decline it, or should the government be allowed to outlaw or mandate certain medical and other personal decisions?

What about deciding who you can marry? What about who can use contraception? What about who can have or not have children?



Does the Constitution make us free from government intrusion in our most personal of private decisions about ourselves?

[Blackwater Lunchbreak]

Do you small government types agree we have a right to privacy from the Government regarding our own medical decisions, or does the Government have a right to dictate our medical care if they so choose?

I am not talking about insurance or what they will pay for, I am talking about making decisions with your doctor.

Does the Constitution protect your right to choose Chemotherapy or decline it, or should the government be allowed to outlaw or mandate certain medical and other personal decisions?

What about deciding who you can marry? What about who can use contraception? What about who can have or not have children?



Does the Constitution make us free from government intrusion in our most personal of private decisions about ourselves?

yes.

[Jarod]

yes.

Thank you, so you see that R v. W is a situation where we are forced to balance two conflicting rights?

If Roe is overturned on the basis that we do not have the right to privacy, as the Republican lawyers argued, what do you think that will do to that right?

Ill tell you, we will LOSE it!

[Blackwater Lunchbreak]

Thank you, so you see that R v. W is a situation where we are forced to balance two conflicting rights?

If Roe is overturned on the basis that we do not have the right to privacy, as the Republican lawyers argued, what do you think that will do to that right?

Ill tell you, we will LOSE it!

your framing is off.

you can't cover murder with a right to privacy.

[Jarod]

your framing is off.

you can't cover murder with a right to privacy.

So you call it murder, but others do not. The law does not, not even the Texas law.
So your argument then is that we do have a right to privacy in the Constitution, but that right is limited?

[Blackwater Lunchbreak]

So you call it murder, but others do not. The law does not, not even the Texas law.
So your argument then is that we do have a right to privacy in the Constitution, but that right is limited?

yes. and in such instances, authorities must get a search warrant to violate that privacy.

[PostmodernProphet]

So you call it murder, but others do not. The law does not, not even the Texas law.
So your argument then is that we do have a right to privacy in the Constitution, but that right is limited?

of course, every right has limits......tell me one that isn't.....

[Poor Richard Saunders]

your framing is off.

you can't cover murder with a right to privacy.

And the government can't legislate that a woman has to die if she carries a fetus that will kill her? Or is it not murder if it's a conservative government killing people?

[Blackwater Lunchbreak]

And the government can't legislate that a woman has to die if she carries a fetus that will kill her? Or is it not murder if it's a conservative government killing people?

im pro choice. but it is killing a human. this will probably result in a shortened decision window.

[PostmodernProphet]

And the government can't legislate that a woman has to die if she carries a fetus that will kill her? Or is it not murder if it's a conservative government killing people?

as I said, life versus life.......the issue of disagreement is privacy versus life.....

[Poor Richard Saunders]

your framing is off.

you can't cover murder with a right to privacy.

So if a fetus is a person and they are in the US but are not a citizen should they be deported since they have not entered the country legally at a border crossing?

[Blackwater Lunchbreak]

So if a fetus is a person and they are in the US but are not a citizen should they be deported since they have not entered the country legally at a border crossing?

yes, if the mother is here illegally.

if they are born here they are a citizen. that's the law.

[martin]

Thank you, so you see that R v. W is a situation where we are forced to balance two conflicting rights?

If Roe is overturned on the basis that we do not have the right to privacy, as the Republican lawyers argued, what do you think that will do to that right?

Ill tell you, we will LOSE it!

Doubtful Roe will be overturned. More likely the Court will follow Roberts' suggestion that 15 rather than 24 weeks is enough time for a woman to "choose" despite the squeeze that would create.

[Jarod]

Doubtful Roe will be overturned. More likely the Court will follow Roberts' suggestion that 15 rather than 24 weeks is enough time for a woman to "choose" despite the squeeze that would create.

I agree, and once that is done, its only a matter of time that they chip it down to a point where it becomes impossible for a woman to know she is pregnant in time.

It might actually result in more abortion because woman will have to make split decisions.

But what about the Republican talking point that the Right to Privacy is invalid and not legit?

[martin]

I agree, and once that is done, its only a matter of time that they chip it down to a point where it becomes impossible for a woman to know she is pregnant in time.

It might actually result in more abortion because woman will have to make split decisions.

But what about the Republican talking point that the Right to Privacy is invalid and not legit?

Yes, 15 weeks is already close. Discovering you are pregnant is just the first, simplest event. Then there is the time in absorbing the difficult news and deciding what do, then finding a clinic, then getting the appointment in time and the transportation difficulty if one arises in getting there. Roberts sounded impervious to the lawyer's lucid statement on the special challenges the time limit may present to poor women. His position is also logically unsound.
If an abortion is not unconstitutional prior to viability why is it necessary or even reasonable to shorten the legal non-viability period.