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    But black presidents cant appoint scotus members according to Republican Party practice

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    The Republican Party hates this nation


    They lie us to war


    They crash the economy with deregulation


    They limit black presidents


    They cheat in elections


    They just keep trying to kill everything the people want

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    Killing Roe will give us a see saw
    I believe it may, but it would be a travesty. It quite literally destabilizes the checks and balance system we have in place. The current administration would basically change the face of the court to match its political views disregarding any meaningful check on its power. This is how fascism begins, with the support of a major political party.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    I do not think 9 political appointments to the Supreme Court should be deciding these issues. I am starting to think the Supreme Court should be eliminated.
    The Founders never intended for it to have the power it does. They sought a much weaker judiciary, but the Court gave itself the powers it has:

    https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/...aims-its-power
    "2Timothy 3 "But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    I believe it may, but it would be a travesty. It quite literally destabilizes the checks and balance system we have in place. The current administration would basically change the face of the court to match its political views disregarding any meaningful check on its power. This is how fascism begins, with the support of a major political party.
    And trump didn't with the help of McConnell, and his ignoring of the Constitution?
    "2Timothy 3 "But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Trapper View Post
    The Founders never intended for it to have the power it does. They sought a much weaker judiciary, but the Court gave itself the powers it has:

    https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/...aims-its-power
    I wonder what would happen if there was no Supreme Court.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Trapper View Post
    And trump didn't with the help of McConnell, and his ignoring of the Constitution?
    No. Now had he added 3 more and then removed the old lady rather than just adding one to replace the old lady we'd have had an issue. I would have been right there with you objecting to that.

    However appointing one justice to replace one that died following the procedure allowed in the constitution? No. He did not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    I wonder what would happen if there was no Supreme Court.
    We will find out if your pResident makes political appointments to make it reflect his own political image. Once that is done there will be no going back, it will be a simple political tool, no more checks and balance, only another arm of the Executive. I do not believe he will "add seats" in order to make it reflect his political image because I believe that there would be backlash and his handlers know it.
    Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but rather we have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit.
    - -- Aristotle

    Believe nothing on the faith of traditions, even though they have been held in honor for many generations and in diverse places. Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it. Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past. Do not believe what you yourself have imagined, persuading yourself that a God inspires you. Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters and priests. After examination, believe what you yourself have tested and found to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.
    - -- The Buddha

    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    So you're one of those racists that are okay with abortion on demand at any time during the gestation period. Dumb.
    wow you are an idiot

    I support the reversal of Roe Wade - because it is a bullshit legal principal

    States can definitely limit to 15 weeks - and less IMO - but if they completely ban it, they are defying self defense laws

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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    I wonder what would happen if there was no Supreme Court.
    One would have to be created to settle lawsuits, and rule on the Constitutionality of laws. With a new creation the power could be limited.
    "2Timothy 3 "But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    No. Now had he added 3 more and then removed the old lady rather than just adding one to replace the old lady we'd have had an issue. I would have been right there with you objecting to that.

    However appointing one justice to replace one that died following the procedure allowed in the constitution? No. He did not.
    I knew you were not intelligent enough to grasp the concept of "packing the courts". When your gawds declared that Garland cold not be appointed by Obama due to the "lack of time", and "wait until the election is over", they violated the Constitution. And when your gawd trump appointed those who's ideology was the same as his he showed what you said was his "fascism", "This is how fascism begins, with the support of a major political party.", and then this little gem: "We will find out if your pResident makes political appointments to make it reflect his own political image."

    But it is like I said, you lack the intellect, and the integrity, to be a true Patriot.
    "2Timothy 3 "But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    I believe it may, but it would be a travesty. It quite literally destabilizes the checks and balance system we have in place. The current administration would basically change the face of the court to match its political views disregarding any meaningful check on its power. This is how fascism begins, with the support of a major political party.
    The previous admin basically changed the Supremes to match their political views. Did you miss that? That was the beginning of Fascism and we are trying to fight it off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Do you small government types agree we have a right to privacy from the Government regarding our own medical decisions, or does the Government have a right to dictate our medical care if they so choose?

    I am not talking about insurance or what they will pay for, I am talking about making decisions with your doctor.

    Does the Constitution protect your right to choose Chemotherapy or decline it, or should the government be allowed to outlaw or mandate certain medical and other personal decisions?

    What about deciding who you can marry? What about who can use contraception? What about who can have or not have children?



    Does the Constitution make us free from government intrusion in our most personal of private decisions about ourselves?
    RepubliCONs have no concept of abiding by their oaths to defend the U.S. Constitution but engage in a war effort against Democracy and the Constitutional rights of society at doing all they can to wage war against U.S. Constitutional law too, especially when it comes to the right to vote. Also, the right to privacy is not mentioned in the U.S. Constitution but SCOTUS stated that several amendments created that right.

    In the United States, the Ninth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution protects against federal infringement of unenumerated rights. The text reads:

    The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

    The Supreme Court of the United States has also interpreted the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution to protect against state infringement of certain unenumerated rights including, among others, the right to send one's children to private school and the right to marital privacy.

    The Supreme Court has found that unenumerated rights include such important rights as the right to travel, the right to vote, and the right to keep personal matters private.[4]"
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unenumerated_rights

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