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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    It doesn't. But no constitutional right is unlimited. Take a look at Heller. It's interesting.
    Unless I'm mistaken, the Heller decision said that the right was not unlimited but than struck down all the limitations!

    There are so many more important (to me) progressive issues that need to be advanced
    that gun control is not the hill on which I'd be willing to die.
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    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    We had the easiest access to guns 1980 than compared to now....so what happened?
    We still had the highest gun death rate, idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    We still had the highest gun death rate, idiot.
    Black on black shootings and suicides make up the bulk of those statistics. Try to be less of a moron.
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    Unless you just can't stand the idea of "ni**ers" teaching white kids.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    That's the key. Guns might be a constitutional right, but ammo isn't.
    Actually, it is. Ammunition is still considered “arms”.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    That's the key. Guns might be a constitutional right, but ammo isn't.
    I'm sure the gun goobers would claim ammo falls under the heading of "arms", but in reality, the Constitution says nothing about what constitutes arms and what doeasn't.

    So in reality, a ban on handguns would not violate the letter of the 2nd Amenndment because certain types of arms are already banned for private ownership and use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    Actually, it is. Ammunition is still considered “arms”.
    Yes, it is.

    But given that certain types of arms are illegal to own and the Constitution makes no distinction about which kind of arms are included in the 2nd and which are not, it has been left up to Congress to decisde.

    If there is ever a large enough majority in the Senate who are in favor of putting tight restrictions on ammo, it seems like they should be able do it.

    Depends on how far right the SCOTUS is at the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    Actually, it is. Ammunition is still considered “arms”.
    I don't believe the Constitution addresses pricing, which is a great way to make it harder to obtain.

    There could be a 100% tax imposed by the Feds, with corresponding state taxes.

    Chris Rock once did a bit about charging $5000 each for bullets.

    "I'd kill you man, but I can't afford it"
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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    Unless I'm mistaken, the Heller decision said that the right was not unlimited but than struck down all the limitations!

    There are so many more important (to me) progressive issues that need to be advanced
    that gun control is not the hill on which I'd be willing to die.
    I agree, not the highest priority. Heller involved a D.C. law that required a gun in the home to be unloaded and locked up. The law was incredibly restrictive. It was struck down, and Scalia wrote the decision, in which he made it abundantly clear that laws that restricted some people from owning and carrying weapons, laws that prohibited weapons in certain locations, and bans on 'dangerous and unusual weapons' were not unconstitutional on their face. So while I agree that all weapons can't be banned, we can certainly make things more regulated.

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    The stupid on this thread from the left is strong. Holy fuck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    I don't believe the Constitution addresses pricing, which is a great way to make it harder to obtain.

    There could be a 100% tax imposed by the Feds, with corresponding state taxes.

    Chris Rock once did a bit about charging $5000 each for bullets.

    "I'd kill you man, but I can't afford it"
    Agreed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    The lives of our children is a small price to pay for your freedom to own 27 semi-automatic weapons.

    The lives of 800,000 Americans is a small price to pay for your freedom to go maskless and defy vaccines.

    You are freedom fighters. You have sacrificed...... oh wait, absolutely nothing.

    Discuss.
    Bring back parental and school discipline and quit running God out of the equation and there won't be so many apathetic quasi state babies running around.

    What kind of children are these semi-lobotomized indoctrinated idiots with no self-control, discipline, or moral foundation going to raise?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    I would add that having a backyard pool is not a constitutional right. You are required by state and local authorities to take certain precautions to prevent accidental deaths. That being said, there are far more ACCIDENTAL gun deaths in the US every year than there are swimming pool drownings. That's not really the point. I support the right of Americans to own a firearm. I believe there need to be limits and additional regulations related to that right, but what's a few dead kids when weighed against the unlimited right to own a gun without any training or background checking. Small price as I said.
    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    True

    But a gun is,,,,, u stupid bald headed fucking POS





    There are an estimated 350 million privately owned firearms in America. In 2017, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) reported 486 fatal injuries from unintentional discharges of a firearm. That yields a rate per 100,000 firearms of 0.14.

    There are an estimated 10.4 million private swimming pools in the United States. In 2017, the CDC reported 3,709 accidental drownings. That yields a rate per 100,000 pools of 35.66.









    486 Americans died from unintentional firearm injuries — about 1.2% of total gun deaths.2 ALL AGES
    https://efsgv.org/learn/type-of-gun-...nal-shootings/


    On average, there were about 400 reported pool/spa drowning deaths among children younger than age 15 each year from 2016 through 2018, according to new CPSC data.
    https://www.usnews.com/news/health-n...re-on-the-rise


    Lot more guns than pools!!!! Pools kill more kids than guns


    Pools: more dangerous for children than guns
    A child is 100 times more likely to drown in a pool than be killed by a gun




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    Ehn, gaawiin bangii. (just a bit)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy View Post
    wow

    See here:

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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    Unless I'm mistaken, the Heller decision said that the right was not unlimited but than struck down all the limitations!

    There are so many more important (to me) progressive issues that need to be advanced
    that gun control is not the hill on which I'd be willing to die.
    It struck down that particular set of limitations. My guess is they are saying you can't have a personal nuke.
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