Page 1 of 14 1234511 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 208

Thread: Freedom of speech vs Technology

  1. #1 | Top
    Join Date
    Nov 2021
    Posts
    136
    Thanks
    11
    Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts
    Groans
    7
    Groaned 8 Times in 3 Posts

    Default Freedom of speech vs Technology

    There was a time in the U.S. where the concept of freedom of speech meant something. At one time we had something called the freedom of the press. It was considered to be the Fourth Estate. Which went along with the Executive, Judicial and Legislative branches of government. And generally considered to be the equal of the other three in importance. But it would seem that our new technology has put a stake through the heart of that idea. Because of technology we now have places for people to communicate electronically. For instance, in forums like this. But because they label themselves as "private entities," freedom of speech has no place. There is one forum out there where I can see why. Because the truth to some extent is allowed to be spoken there, the place is practically a ghost town. Maybe if all the forums were the same, instead of a place for the self deluded to hide in and speak to each other, that would be different.

    Another blow against freedom of speech happen during the Reagan administration. There used to be a thing in the media called the fairness doctrine. Where two sides to any issue were given equal time. But Reagan killed that. I wonder how the incidents with george floyd or ahmaud arbery (for instance) would have been handled if the fairness doctrine was still in place. Is it time we were honest and took the image of George Washington off the dollar bill?

    George Washington.jpg

  2. #2 | Top
    Join Date
    Mar 2020
    Posts
    14,736
    Thanks
    148
    Thanked 1,224 Times in 1,063 Posts
    Groans
    142
    Groaned 185 Times in 180 Posts

    Default

    Reagan destroyed the USSR abruptly.
    Reagan destroyed the USA in a much more slow & painful way.

  3. #3 | Top
    Join Date
    Nov 2020
    Posts
    10,099
    Thanks
    2,191
    Thanked 4,007 Times in 2,639 Posts
    Groans
    300
    Groaned 404 Times in 391 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by RyszardKuklinski View Post
    Reagan destroyed the USSR abruptly.
    Reagan destroyed the USA in a much more slow & painful way.
    reagan had nothing to do with russia imploding due to lack of economic activity, due to stupid shit communist economic policies. russia had, and still has, only one real economic lifeline- petroleum.....during reagan's years, the price of oil was incredibly low and russia could not afford to prop up all their weak ass poverty stricken satellite countries, so they imploded.

  4. #4 | Top
    Join Date
    Nov 2021
    Posts
    136
    Thanks
    11
    Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts
    Groans
    7
    Groaned 8 Times in 3 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by RyszardKuklinski View Post
    Reagan destroyed the USSR abruptly.
    Reagan destroyed the USA in a much more slow & painful way.

    I wouldn't say Reagan destroyed the USSR. But he was good at slowly destroying the U.S. Though all republicans do that.

  5. #5 | Top
    Join Date
    Mar 2020
    Posts
    14,736
    Thanks
    148
    Thanked 1,224 Times in 1,063 Posts
    Groans
    142
    Groaned 185 Times in 180 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier Daddy View Post
    reagan had nothing to do with russia imploding due to lack of economic activity, due to stupid shit communist economic policies. russia had, and still has, only one real economic lifeline- petroleum.....during reagan's years, the price of oil was incredibly low and russia could not afford to prop up all their weak ass poverty stricken satellite countries, so they imploded.
    Disagree sort of.
    The USSR wasn't in good shape, but could have continued on worthlessly like North Korea.

    The sources who crashed Soviets include many including Reagan but not limited to Reagan vamping up military funding & the support for Afghani rebels propped up by Carter, Brzezinski & Charlie Wilson.
    Gorbachev helped so did Polish Solidarity, so did Polish Ryszard Kuklinski,
    So did the Afghanistan rebels.

  6. #6 | Top
    Join Date
    Nov 2020
    Posts
    10,099
    Thanks
    2,191
    Thanked 4,007 Times in 2,639 Posts
    Groans
    300
    Groaned 404 Times in 391 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by RyszardKuklinski View Post
    Disagree sort of.
    The USSR wasn't in good shape, but could have continued on worthlessly like North Korea.

    The sources who crashed Soviets include many including Reagan but not limited to Reagan vamping up military funding & the support for Afghani rebels propped up by Carter, Brzezinski & Charlie Wilson.
    Gorbachev helped so did Polish Solidarity, so did Polish Ryszard Kuklinski,
    So did the Afghanistan rebels.
    yeah, those are valid factors. but the real point is, russia made the mistake of allowing a little bit of western culture, and capitalism, into their country, made a stupid decision to invade afghanistan, and low oil prices sealed the deal. NOTHING TO DO WITH REAGAN.

  7. The Following User Says Thank You to Hoosier Daddy For This Post:

    Guno צְבִי (12-03-2021)

  8. #7 | Top
    Join Date
    Mar 2020
    Posts
    14,736
    Thanks
    148
    Thanked 1,224 Times in 1,063 Posts
    Groans
    142
    Groaned 185 Times in 180 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by antiall View Post
    I wouldn't say Reagan destroyed the USSR. But he was good at slowly destroying the U.S. Though all republicans do that.
    Reagan's support for outpaced military spending far beyond the USSR & increased aid to Afghanistan rebels certainly seemed to help deprive Soviets of morale to make them less hopeful & entrenched to debt.

    As for the USA similar applies.
    Reagan promoted Amnesty, the end of the fairness doctrine & tolerance of Globalist free trade.

    Unfortunately every USA president since has done next to nothing on those issues either.

  9. #8 | Top
    Join Date
    Nov 2021
    Posts
    136
    Thanks
    11
    Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts
    Groans
    7
    Groaned 8 Times in 3 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by RyszardKuklinski View Post
    Disagree sort of.
    The USSR wasn't in good shape, but could have continued on worthlessly like North Korea.

    The sources who crashed Soviets include many including Reagan but not limited to Reagan vamping up military funding & the support for Afghani rebels propped up by Carter, Brzezinski & Charlie Wilson.
    Gorbachev helped so did Polish Solidarity, so did Polish Ryszard Kuklinski,
    So did the Afghanistan rebels.
    What are your thoughts on the Katyn massacre. Where the ruskies killed around 22,000 Polish POW's. The Nazis never did that shit with their prisoners. Really piss people off around here. (Or just about anywhere) Say that Hitler was actually the good guy. Sure, he invaded Poland. But what you're not allowed to know is that he had good reason to. Because ethnic Germans were being murdered in Poland. Either by pissed off Polish jews or Russian agents wanting to provoke Germany into invading. Which they could then join in on.

  10. #9 | Top
    Join Date
    Feb 2020
    Posts
    87,043
    Thanks
    35,071
    Thanked 21,785 Times in 17,104 Posts
    Groans
    985
    Groaned 2,344 Times in 2,263 Posts
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default

    DEMOCRATS


  11. #10 | Top
    Join Date
    Nov 2017
    Posts
    20,911
    Thanks
    1,067
    Thanked 5,761 Times in 4,510 Posts
    Groans
    297
    Groaned 185 Times in 181 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by antiall View Post
    There was a time in the U.S. where the concept of freedom of speech meant something. At one time we had something called the freedom of the press. It was considered to be the Fourth Estate. Which went along with the Executive, Judicial and Legislative branches of government. And generally considered to be the equal of the other three in importance. But it would seem that our new technology has put a stake through the heart of that idea. Because of technology we now have places for people to communicate electronically. For instance, in forums like this. But because they label themselves as "private entities," freedom of speech has no place. There is one forum out there where I can see why. Because the truth to some extent is allowed to be spoken there, the place is practically a ghost town. Maybe if all the forums were the same, instead of a place for the self deluded to hide in and speak to each other, that would be different.

    Another blow against freedom of speech happen during the Reagan administration. There used to be a thing in the media called the fairness doctrine. Where two sides to any issue were given equal time. But Reagan killed that. I wonder how the incidents with george floyd or ahmaud arbery (for instance) would have been handled if the fairness doctrine was still in place. Is it time we were honest and took the image of George Washington off the dollar bill?
    We have all the free speech outlets we ever had plus thousands of new ones due to technology. Plus, the courts have expanded our free speech through interpretation. If you think you are being limited by one site go to 100 others.

  12. #11 | Top
    Join Date
    Mar 2020
    Posts
    14,736
    Thanks
    148
    Thanked 1,224 Times in 1,063 Posts
    Groans
    142
    Groaned 185 Times in 180 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by antiall View Post
    What are your thoughts on the Katyn massacre. Where the ruskies killed around 22,000 Polish POW's. The Nazis never did that shit with their prisoners. Really piss people off around here. (Or just about anywhere) Say that Hitler was actually the good guy. Sure, he invaded Poland. But what you're not allowed to know is that he had good reason to. Because ethnic Germans were being murdered in Poland. Either by pissed off Polish jews or Russian agents wanting to provoke Germany into invading. Which they could then join in on.
    Actually the real ethnic slaughters weren't by Poles prior to WW2.

    But, by Soviets & Nazi Germany against Poles.

    Like the 1937-1938 Polish Operation of the NKVD against the Polish minority in Stalinist Russia.
    Or
    Operation Tannenberg starting in August of 1939 against Polish minorities in Germany.

    Katyn Massacre was terrible but was dwarfed by Wola Massacre by Nazi Germany or Wolyn Massacre by Ukrainian Stefan Bandera supporters.

  13. #12 | Top
    Join Date
    Nov 2017
    Posts
    20,911
    Thanks
    1,067
    Thanked 5,761 Times in 4,510 Posts
    Groans
    297
    Groaned 185 Times in 181 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by RyszardKuklinski View Post
    Disagree sort of.
    The USSR wasn't in good shape, but could have continued on worthlessly like North Korea.

    The sources who crashed Soviets include many including Reagan but not limited to Reagan vamping up military funding & the support for Afghani rebels propped up by Carter, Brzezinski & Charlie Wilson.
    Gorbachev helped so did Polish Solidarity, so did Polish Ryszard Kuklinski,
    So did the Afghanistan rebels.
    Charlie Wilson was my old Congressman. "Good Time Charlie" whose office staff was made up of "Charlie's Angels." When asked why he only hired good looking women he said "You can teach them to type, but you can't teach them to grow tits."

  14. #13 | Top
    Join Date
    Mar 2020
    Posts
    14,736
    Thanks
    148
    Thanked 1,224 Times in 1,063 Posts
    Groans
    142
    Groaned 185 Times in 180 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by antiall View Post
    What are your thoughts on the Katyn massacre. Where the ruskies killed around 22,000 Polish POW's. The Nazis never did that shit with their prisoners. Really piss people off around here. (Or just about anywhere) Say that Hitler was actually the good guy. Sure, he invaded Poland. But what you're not allowed to know is that he had good reason to. Because ethnic Germans were being murdered in Poland. Either by pissed off Polish jews or Russian agents wanting to provoke Germany into invading. Which they could then join in on.
    Hitler invaded the whole of Czechoslovakia months before Poland.

    Hitler invaded Albania & the Basque lands even earlier like in the Gurnicka Massacre.

    Hitler eventually invaded benign Netherlands & Belgium.
    Or
    Even his own allies like Hungary & Italy.

    I guess everyone was picking on poor Hitler.

  15. #14 | Top
    Join Date
    Mar 2020
    Posts
    14,736
    Thanks
    148
    Thanked 1,224 Times in 1,063 Posts
    Groans
    142
    Groaned 185 Times in 180 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by antiall View Post
    What are your thoughts on the Katyn massacre. Where the ruskies killed around 22,000 Polish POW's. The Nazis never did that shit with their prisoners. Really piss people off around here. (Or just about anywhere) Say that Hitler was actually the good guy. Sure, he invaded Poland. But what you're not allowed to know is that he had good reason to. Because ethnic Germans were being murdered in Poland. Either by pissed off Polish jews or Russian agents wanting to provoke Germany into invading. Which they could then join in on.
    What Soviet agents BTW!?

    Like Molotov?
    Lol

    The USSR was among the first of Hitler's allies.

    Not only was Central East Europe, Baltic & Finnic Europe divided between Nazis & Soviets in the Molotov Ribbentrop Pact!?

    But, Soviets supplied Nazi Germany with raw materials in the German Soviet Credit Agreement & German Soviet Commercial agreement.

  16. #15 | Top
    Join Date
    May 2020
    Posts
    32,857
    Thanks
    19,749
    Thanked 9,460 Times in 7,746 Posts
    Groans
    836
    Groaned 510 Times in 503 Posts

    Default

    I'm all for bringing back the fairness doctrine, and Paul Harvey, too!


  17. The Following User Says Thank You to Matt Dillon For This Post:

    antiall (12-02-2021)

Similar Threads

  1. Freedom Of Speech.
    By Vlad in forum General Politics Forum
    Replies: 120
    Last Post: 06-15-2021, 08:38 AM
  2. Founding Fathers preferred freedom of speech or freedom of enterprises!?
    By BattleofHodow in forum Current Events Forum
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 01-12-2021, 07:31 PM
  3. Bye, Bye, Freedom Of Speech
    By Flanders in forum Conspiracies and Conspiracy Theories Forum
    Replies: 50
    Last Post: 12-10-2020, 05:41 PM
  4. Who Here Supports Freedom Of Speech.
    By free4all in forum General Politics Forum
    Replies: 101
    Last Post: 07-21-2020, 04:39 PM
  5. The Freedom of Speech Thread.
    By freshsea in forum Off Topic Forum
    Replies: 47
    Last Post: 02-11-2020, 04:30 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Rules

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •