If the USA fails, will Israel too!?

[T. A. Gardner]

Tel Aviv, Israel



Gaza city, Gaza Strip

[BattleofHodow]

Tel Aviv, Israel



Gaza city, Gaza Strip

Good point, Gazans are more a victim than Israel.

Gaza looks like Warsaw after Nazis bombed it, or Grozny after Russia bombed it, or Dresden after Anglo allies bombed it.

[T. A. Gardner]

Good point, Gazans are more a victim than Israel.

Gaza looks like Warsaw after Nazis bombed it, or Grozny after Russia bombed it, or Dresden after Anglo allies bombed it.

Wrong. Gazans are self-inflicted victims. I pose these questions to you:

If tomorrow Israel stopped all military actions against Gaza, would the Palestinians stop firing rockets and such into Israel?

If tomorrow if the Palestinians stopped all attacks on Israel, would the Israelis continue to attack targets within the Gaza strip?

The Gazans brought this shit on themselves. By the way, Egypt has their border with Gaza closed for the same reason Israel does. They don't Palestinian terrorists in Egypt any more than the Israelis want them in Israel.

[Doc Dutch]

Zionism posited a negation of Jewish life in the diaspora and, until 1948 perceived its primary goal as an ideal ingathering of exiles (kibbutz galuyot) in the ancient heartland of the Jewish people,and, through the establishment of a state, the liberation of Jews from the persecutions, humiliations, discrimination and antisemitism they had been subject to. Since the establishment of the State of Israel in 1948, Zionism has continued primarily to advocate on behalf of Israel and to address threats to its continued existence and security.

https://www.adl.org/resources/glossary-terms/zionism

In the eyes of antisemitics, it doesn't matter. It's just 3000 year old excuse to hate the Jews. The haters and the accusations change but the results are the same.

'From the river to the sea' doesn't mean just the "Zionists". It means every person of Jewish blood or faith regardless of age or gender.

[Doc Dutch]

If Israel has already been obliterated then destroying the planet is a spiteful Psychopathy.

Spaz, if you would sit and think about it really, really hard I bet you could see that particular strategy is called a "Deterrent".

When did the Arab-Israeli Wars stop and the terrorist AKA Asymmetrical Warfare begin? Overrunning Israel with a foreign army would be suicide for the attackers and their supporters. So they won't do it. They use asymmetrical warfare instead.

It's the same reason the US and the USSR or PRC didn't get into a war; Mutual Assured Destruction (MAD). So, they pushed their political/military/economic goals through proxies.

This is the #1 reason why nations like Pakistan, North Korea and Iran want nuclear bombs; not to use them but to act as a deterrent to invasion.

[BattleofHodow]

Spaz, if you would sit and think about it really, really hard I bet you could see that particular strategy is called a "Deterrent".

When did the Arab-Israeli Wars stop and the terrorist AKA Asymmetrical Warfare begin? Overrunning Israel with a foreign army would be suicide for the attackers and their supporters. So they won't do it. They use asymmetrical warfare instead.

It's the same reason the US and the USSR or PRC didn't get into a war; Mutual Assured Destruction (MAD). So, they pushed their political/military/economic goals through proxies.

This is the #1 reason why nations like Pakistan, North Korea and Iran want nuclear bombs; not to use them but to act as a deterrent to invasion.

Nuclear weapons can help prevent war by intimidation true.

But, all it takes is one nut to use them to ruin the World.

[BattleofHodow]

Wrong. Gazans are self-inflicted victims. I pose these questions to you:

If tomorrow Israel stopped all military actions against Gaza, would the Palestinians stop firing rockets and such into Israel?

If tomorrow if the Palestinians stopped all attacks on Israel, would the Israelis continue to attack targets within the Gaza strip?

The Gazans brought this shit on themselves. By the way, Egypt has their border with Gaza closed for the same reason Israel does. They don't Palestinian terrorists in Egypt any more than the Israelis want them in Israel.

Gaza is more fierce towards Israel than the West Bank.

Yet, Israel clearly respects might like all primitive beings.

Because Gaza isn't being colonized by Israeli settlements like the West Bank.

If Israel is swarmed they brought it onto themselves.

Because Arabs lived there for nearly 1,400 years when Israel arrived.

I really have to laugh at American Zionists think they have more rights to the USA than Palestinians did there.

The truth is most Zionist savages would never give up their homes to Indigenous people & neither should Palestine.

[BattleofHodow]

It's a cultural thing. I trained Saudis to fly. Saudis and Italians were the worst students. Part of it is a technological thing, but there's a cultural philosophy too that seems to inhibit their learning to fly. There's a reason why a little country has been kicking their collective asses for over 70 years.

All the Euros were good except for Italy. Spaniards allowed me to practice my Spanish and pick up some choice phrases.

Southern Italians share more genotype & phenotype with Lebanon than with Germany.

[Doc Dutch]

Nuclear weapons can help prevent war by intimidation true.

But, all it takes is one nut to use them to ruin the World.

Agreed. Which is why some scientists working on the Manhattan Project started having second thoughts about letting the nuclear bomb genie out of the bottle. Once it's out, it can't be put back in.

[Doc Dutch]

Southern Italians share more genotype & phenotype with Lebanon than with Germany.

Could be, but it's cultural, not genetic except for hair, body build and skin tone.

[BattleofHodow]

Could be, but it's cultural, not genetic except for hair, body build and skin tone.

Not so sure.
Siclians, Ashkenazi Jews, Greeks & Lebanese all tend to use a lot of hand gestures when talking in comparison to West, North, Central & East Europe.

Do you think this is cultural!?
How!?

From the Greco Roman empire times united hand gesture use!?

Truth is the genotype & phenotypes are similar in those peoples.

[Doc Dutch]

Not so sure.
Siclians, Ashkenazi Jews, Greeks & Lebanese all tend to use a lot of hand gestures when talking in comparison to West, North, Central & East Europe.

Do you think this is cultural!?
How!?

From the Greco Roman empire times united hand gesture use!?

Truth is the genotype & phenotypes are similar in those peoples.

Dude, you just described a cultural idiosyncrasy. Do you believe a German baby raised in a Greek family all his life wouldn't act like a Greek even if he had blue eyes and blond hair? Or that a Greek baby adopted by American parents and raised purely American would grow up like any other American kid?

[BattleofHodow]

Dude, you just described a cultural idiosyncrasy. Do you believe a German baby raised in a Greek family all his life wouldn't act like a Greek even if he had blue eyes and blond hair? Or that a Greek baby adopted by American parents and raised purely American would grow up like any other American kid?

Not so much.
Sicilian Americans & Ashkenazi Jewish Americans both still use more hand gestures when most have been here over 100 years.

Just as my Polish family came here over 100 years ago.

Yet, as you point out my thinking is more Polish than American.

It's not really culture so much as biology.

Let's get real here.

[Doc Dutch]

Not so much.
Sicilian Americans & Ashkenazi Jewish Americans both still use more hand gestures when most have been here over 100 years.

Just as my Polish family came here over 100 years ago.

Yet, as you point out my thinking is more Polish than American.

It's not really culture so much as biology.

Let's get real here.

Do they speak Sicilian or Hebrew? If so, it's still cultural.

Why are you so invested in proving everything is genetic? What is your primary reason for proving genetics make that much of a difference?

[BattleofHodow]

Do they speak Sicilian or Hebrew? If so, it's still cultural.

Why are you so invested in proving everything is genetic? What is your primary reason for proving genetics make that much of a difference?

I don't deny SOME cultural impacts.

But, definitely think it's much more biology.

Biology is only partially genetic.

Some of it is environment or diet.

I.E
Serotonin & Dopamine impact personality a lot.
But, while partially influenced by genes can be influenced partially by environmental pressures & diet

Serotonin tends to be lower in mentally ill.
Which indefinitely have genetic components.
But, can be improved by an appropriate diet & worsened by traumatic experience.