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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Spaz, you forgot the part where Israel was going to be overrun and collapsed. What have they got to lose by nuking Tehran, Riyadh (+ Mecca) and Damascus if they are about to be overrun?

    Taking your enemies down with you is the mark of a successful warrior.
    The Sampson Option is evil.
    Plsin & simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyszardKuklinski View Post
    The Sampson Option is evil.
    Plsin & simple.
    It's both reality and righteous because it's the duty of those in charge of the weapons to do so.
    God bless America and those who defend our Constitution.

    "Hatred is a failure of imagination" - Graham Greene, "The Power and the Glory"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    It's both reality and righteous because it's the duty of those in charge of the weapons to do so.
    Destroying the World because you are failing as a country is an inexcusable evil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyszardKuklinski View Post
    Destroying the World because you are failing as a country is an inexcusable evil.
    What are you going to do about it? Kill them first? LOL

    How about everyone just quits attacking Israel? Fair enough? No one attacks them, they don't nuke anyone?
    God bless America and those who defend our Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    What are you going to do about it? Kill them first? LOL

    How about everyone just quits attacking Israel? Fair enough? No one attacks them, they don't nuke anyone?
    Zionism may kill more than Nazism.

    Your assertion not mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    What are you going to do about it? Kill them first? LOL

    How about everyone just quits attacking Israel? Fair enough? No one attacks them, they don't nuke anyone?
    Zionism posited a negation of Jewish life in the diaspora and, until 1948 perceived its primary goal as an ideal ingathering of exiles (kibbutz galuyot) in the ancient heartland of the Jewish people,and, through the establishment of a state, the liberation of Jews from the persecutions, humiliations, discrimination and antisemitism they had been subject to. Since the establishment of the State of Israel in 1948, Zionism has continued primarily to advocate on behalf of Israel and to address threats to its continued existence and security.

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    Why would Israel fail if the US were to stop supporting that nation? They have a working economy and trade. They can always seek new trading partners. Israel's GDP currently is about $410 billion and total US aid amounts to about $3.8 billion or a bit less than 1% of Israel's annual GDP. I think they can survive without it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Why would Israel fail if the US were to stop supporting that nation? They have a working economy and trade. They can always seek new trading partners. Israel's GDP currently is about $410 billion and total US aid amounts to about $3.8 billion or a bit less than 1% of Israel's annual GDP. I think they can survive without it.
    Not in terms of economics.
    I'm talking more along the lines of warfare.

    I tend to believe many MENA countries are less extremist due to USA intervention.
    That if the USA collapsed due to civil war or anything.

    That many MENA countries will likely flip against Israel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyszardKuklinski View Post
    Not in terms of economics.
    I'm talking more along the lines of warfare.

    I tend to believe many MENA countries are less extremist due to USA intervention.
    That if the USA collapsed due to civil war or anything.

    That many MENA countries will likely flip against Israel.
    The Arab nations surrounding Israel couldn't beat each other in a war. They've proven their ineptness in war fighting for decades now. They also hate each other due to rampant tribalism that still exists throughout the Arab world. Saw that myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    The Arab nations surrounding Israel couldn't beat each other in a war. They've proven their ineptness in war fighting for decades now. They also hate each other due to rampant tribalism that still exists throughout the Arab world. Saw that myself.
    It's not just Arabs, Iran ( Persian Indo European speakers) & even maybe Turkey a Turkic speaking nation established by Asiatic raiders from Central Asia.

    I tend to think Turks & Iranians are far more big & bad than Arab nations.

    PS
    If Iran is no threat to Israel!?

    Why all the saber rattling about Iran by Zionists!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyszardKuklinski View Post
    Zionism may kill more than Nazism.

    Your assertion not mine.
    Spaz, that's silly. Why are you lying that I'd say such a retarded thing that "Zionism may kill more than Nazism"?

    Would you fight back if attacked, Spaz? If you'd fight back then why do you deny Israel that same right?
    God bless America and those who defend our Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Spaz, that's silly. Why are you lying that I'd say such a retarded thing that "Zionism may kill more than Nazism"?

    Would you fight back if attacked, Spaz? If you'd fight back then why do you deny Israel that same right?
    Destroying the planet by a nuclear war isn't A moral position.
    Actually it's the Psychopathic position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    The Arab nations surrounding Israel couldn't beat each other in a war. They've proven their ineptness in war fighting for decades now. They also hate each other due to rampant tribalism that still exists throughout the Arab world. Saw that myself.
    It's a cultural thing. I trained Saudis to fly. Saudis and Italians were the worst students. Part of it is a technological thing, but there's a cultural philosophy too that seems to inhibit their learning to fly. There's a reason why a little country has been kicking their collective asses for over 70 years.

    All the Euros were good except for Italy. Spaniards allowed me to practice my Spanish and pick up some choice phrases.
    God bless America and those who defend our Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyszardKuklinski View Post
    Destroying the planet by a nuclear war isn't A moral position.
    Actually it's the Psychopathic position.
    Why are you overlooking the mass murder of an entire nation before leaping to your moral high ground about a last act of defiance?

    Besides, it wouldn't be the whole planet, just the capitols of all the Arab states and the global economy.

    Now consider this, Spaz; wouldn't it be wise of the Western nations to prevent hostilities in the Middle East? Wouldn't it be wise for the Arab nations to quit fucking with Israel?

    God bless America and those who defend our Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Why are you overlooking the mass murder of an entire nation before leaping to your moral high ground about a last act of defiance?

    Besides, it wouldn't be the whole planet, just the capitols of all the Arab states and the global economy.

    Now consider this, Spaz; wouldn't it be wise of the Western nations to prevent hostilities in the Middle East? Wouldn't it be wise for the Arab nations to quit fucking with Israel?
    If Israel has already been obliterated then destroying the planet is a spiteful Psychopathy.

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